Daily Wire hosts Ben Shapiro and Matt Walsh engaged in an informal debate over the existence of extraterrestrial beings and unidentified flying objects after the U.S. Congress held its first public hearing investigating reported military encounters with alleged crafts of non-human origins since the 1960s.
In late July, the House Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs held the much anticipated hearing on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena — which included two former U.S. Navy pilots and a decorated military veteran and intelligence official-turned-whistleblower.
But whether or not the truth about aliens and UFOs will ever come to light, it comes down to applying facts and logic for Shapiro and Walsh — both of whom have their own set of conceptual representations of external observations.
“It’s bull crap,” Shapiro said during his show last week. “Okay — I’m just gonna put out there right now. There are no aliens on planet Earth, other than perhaps Bernie Sanders. There are no aliens. Okay, there may be in the universe, they haven’t found us yet.”
Shapiro’s argument stems from the Bigfoot debate. In a society reliant on smartphone cameras and social media addictions, Shapiro said if “so many people have seen Bigfoot,” then credible images of this large and hairy human-like mythical creature would be all over the Internet.
Comparing Bigfoot to aliens is different story for Walsh, however, who began his segment claiming he would “destroy” Shapiro with his own set of facts and logic. He argued that if Shapiro admitted preconceived biases up front about the possibility of aliens visiting Earth before looking at the evidence, then it diminishes his credibility on the subject.
“When you were already committed to that response, you were openly committed to that response before you looked at [the evidence],” he said.
The Department of Defense released a statement insisting that its All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), which has been tasked with investigating UFOs, “has not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate claims that any programs regarding the possession or reverse-engineering of extraterrestrial materials have existed in the past or exist currently.” In addition, AARO Director Sean Kirkpatrick said the hearing was “insulting” to members of his team.
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But during sworn testimony before Congress, witness and whistleblower David Grusch, an Air Force veteran and former member of the National Geospatial Intelligence Agency, said he is aware of where the U.S. government is covertly keeping unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAPs).
Grusch claimed he knows the “exact locations” based on interviews of “over 40 witnesses over four years” when asked about UFOs, the popular term used to describe UAPs. Though Grusch declared that he was limited in what he could disclose publicly, he stated that the locations have been provided to an inspector general and “some” to the congressional intelligence panels.
Walsh said the UFO photos and video footage dating back to the 1950s still have not been debunked. But Shapiro doesn’t buy the argument, citing examples of how such occurrences would defy the laws of physics.
“It’s not a question of ‘for sures’ because I don’t know for sure,” Shapiro said. “All I’m saying is that the evidence you’re presenting me is going to have to be better than a guy saw a shadowy image that appeared to defy the laws of physics.”
My friend @MattWalshBlog thinks he destroyed me with "facts and logic" over aliens and UFOs…but here's why he's wrong.
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— The Ben Shapiro Show (@BenShapiroShow) August 1, 2023
