Daily Wire host Andrew Klavan’s “The Kingdom of Cain: Finding God in the Literature of Darkness,” hit the No. 13 spot on the New York Times hardcover nonfiction <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/books/best-sellers/hardcover-nonfiction/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">bestseller list</a> this week, showing, yet again, that readers are itching to soak up Klavan’s timeless wisdom. 
“<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Cain-Finding-Literature-Darkness/dp/0310368340" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Kingdom of Cain</a>,” which hit shelves on May 6, explores how people can obey the biblical command to “rejoice evermore” when the world is filled with so much evil. Klavan’s book quickly became the No. 1 book in Christian Death and Grief on Amazon before hitting the NYT bestseller list. 
“Delighted to tell you that ‘Kingdom of Cain: Finding God in the Literature of Darkness’ has made the NY Times Bestseller List. Thank you all for picking up a copy. I hope you come to love it as much as I do,” Klavan <a href="https://x.com/andrewklavan/status/1922789461164802089" target="_blank" rel="noopener">wrote</a> on social media on Wednesday. 
The book focuses on three murders throughout history “and the works of art that reveal the nature of their evil.” First, Klavan highlights the killing of French con man Jean-François Chardon and his mother by the thief Pierre François Lacenaire in 1834, which Klavan <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/murder-madness-meaning-how-can-we-rejoice-always-when-the-world-often-seems-so-broken?author=Daily+Wire+Shop&amp;category=News&amp;elementPosition=2&amp;row=0&amp;rowType=Vertical+List&amp;title=Murder%2C+Madness%2C+Meaning%3A+How+Can+We+%E2%80%98Rejoice+Always%E2%80%99+When+The+World+Often+Seems+So+Broken%3F">says</a> sparked “the beginning of a startling century-long dance between art and reality.” Then, the author shifts to the murders committed in the American Midwest in the 1950s by psychopath Ed Gein, the murders that inspired the novel “Psycho” written by Robert Bloch, which then went on to inspire Alfred Hitchcock’s movie of the same name. 
Finally, Klavan goes to the beginning: Cain’s murder of Abel, and how Cain’s presence continues throughout the Old and New Testaments. 
“The Kingdom of Cain” is available on <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Kingdom-Cain-Finding-Literature-Darkness/dp/0310368340" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Amazon</a>, and you can purchase signed copies of the bestselling book at <a href="https://store.dailywire.com/products/the-kingdom-of-cain?variant=42713621954620" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Daily Wire Shop</a>.

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As Americans celebrate their mothers this weekend, DailyWire+ is excited to release the trailer for Dr. Jordan B. Peterson’s next great series, which will focus on the most challenging, complex, and meaningful aspect of human life: parenting. 
In Peterson’s powerful new 5-part series, “<a href="https://www.dailywire.com/episode/parenting-the-official-trailer?elementPosition=0&amp;location=Home%20Tab&amp;row=0&amp;rowType=Home%20Featured%20Carousel" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Parenting</a>,” the renowned psychologist will draw from decades of clinical practice to offer essential guidance on raising children in a world that rarely tells the truth. From discipline to identity, from boundaries to responsibility, Dr. Peterson distills the core principles every parent must understand — what it means to be a father, what it means to be a mother, and how to help your child become someone capable of adventure, accountability, and purpose.
“Parenting” will premiere <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/show/parenting?row=2&amp;elementPosition=1&amp;rowType=Square+Show+Carousel" target="_blank" rel="noopener">exclusively on DailyWire+</a> on May 25. 
“There is nothing you’ll do in life that’s more challenging, difficult, and rewarding than being a parent,” Peterson says in the trailer. “Nothing with greater highs or lower lows. You have little kids for a very short period of time. It is a major mistake not to notice that and not to appreciate it.”
WATCH THE TRAILER: 
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The series is unlike anything Peterson has released on DailyWire+ and will feature him helping real couples raise children who are strong, resilient, and morally grounded. Whether you’re already a parent or thinking of becoming one, this is the series that will change the way you see your family — and your role in it.

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Daily Wire investigative reporter Spencer Lindquist took home a 2025 Media Research Center Bulldog Award for excellence in conservative media.
The Media Research Center (MRC) presents the <a href="https://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/nb-staff/2025/05/06/mrc-announces-fourth-annual-bulldog-award-winners-sowell-musk-kelly" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Bulldog Awards</a> to conservative journalists, columnists, and podcast hosts each year as an alternative to the left-leaning Pulitzer Prize. Lindquist received the MRC Bulldog Award for Outstanding Blogger for his reporting on Colony Ridge, a housing development in Texas that advertises to illegal immigrants and has become a hotbed of illegal alien crime.
Lindquist has “documented rising crime in the greater Colony Ridge area, including a child abduction, drug overdoses, drug trafficking, drunk driving, murders, and hideouts for criminal illegal immigrants,” the MRC announced this week.
“Despite that, Lindquist reported that developers view mass immigration as a business opportunity, including the systematic targeting of illegal immigrants by allowing them to purchase land without a Social Security number.”
The MRC further notes that “thanks to Lindquist’s reporting, Colony Ridge has been put squarely in the crosshairs of the Trump administration, including immigration operations that have nabbed over 100 illegal aliens and MS-13 gang members.”
Other Bulldog Award recipients this year include the economist Thomas Sowell, who received the Lifetime Achievement Award; Elon Musk, who was named Outstanding Social Media Personality; the Wall Street Journal’s Kimberly Strassel, Outstanding Columnist; and CNN contributor Scott Jennings, who was honored for Outstanding Achievement Behind Enemy Lines.
Beyond Colony Ridge, Lindquist has reported on <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/baltimore-judge-gets-in-the-way-of-another-trump-gang-member-deportation?author=Spencer+Lindquist&amp;category=News&amp;elementPosition=10&amp;row=0&amp;rowType=Vertical+List&amp;title=Baltimore+Judge+Gets+In+The+Way+Of+Another+Trump+Gang+Member+Deportation" target="_blank" rel="noopener">judicial efforts</a> to stymie the Trump administration’s immigration policies and <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/california-nearly-freed-a-twice-deported-illegal-alien-drunk-driver-now-newsom-is-backtracking?author=Spencer+Lindquist&amp;category=News&amp;elementPosition=12&amp;row=0&amp;rowType=Vertical+List&amp;title=California+Nearly+Freed+A+Twice-Deported+Illegal+Alien+Drunk+Driver+%E2%80%94+Now+Newsom+Is+Backtracking" target="_blank" rel="noopener">cataloged</a> instances of illegal immigrant crime. Just this week, he <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/exclusive-trump-dhs-partners-with-100s-of-police-departments-to-supercharge-deportation-campaign?author=Spencer+Lindquist&amp;category=News&amp;elementPosition=1&amp;row=0&amp;rowType=Vertical+List&amp;title=EXCLUSIVE%3A+Trump+Makes+Move+To+Super-Charge+Deportations+Using+Local+Cops" target="_blank" rel="noopener">broke the news</a> that the Trump administration was deputizing local law enforcement agencies to carry out certain ICE duties, including deportations.
Outside of immigration, Lindquist has also reported extensively on the transgender lobby and left-wing environmental policies, among other issues.
“As trust in left-wing media continues to collapse, independent news sources featuring fearless truth-tellers are on the rise,” MRC Vice President for Research and Publications Brent Baker said. “This year’s MRC Bulldog winners are replacing discredited leftists who claim to report the news, yet failed the American people when it came to stories like the Russiagate scandal and Joe Biden’s cognitive decline.&#8221;
Lindquist joins a number of his Daily Wire colleagues in the ranks of MRC Bulldog Award winners. Daily Wire editor emeritus Ben Shapiro and host Matt Walsh have <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/the-daily-wires-ben-shapiro-and-kassy-akiva-win-conservative-media-awards" target="_blank" rel="noopener">each received</a> the Outstanding Podcast Award. Daily Wire White House correspondent Mary Margaret Olohan and video journalist Kassy Akiva have previously been named Outstanding Blogger. And Daily Wire investigative reporter Luke Rosiak was the <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/daily-wires-luke-rosiak-wins-award-for-outstanding-investigative-journalist" target="_blank" rel="noopener">first-ever recipient</a> of the MRC’s Bulldog Award for Outstanding Investigative Journalist.

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You knew it was coming. You woke up and the sun seemed a little brighter.
The birds are singing. Planes are flying — mostly full of gang members headed to their new, secure home in El Salvador. Yes, things are returning to normal.
It’s Norming in America.
So go ahead, touch some grass. As Ben Shapiro likes to say, “The era of weird is over and the era of the normie is back.”
And to celebrate Norming in America, we put together this neat video for you.
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Today, we’re actually arresting shoplifters and fewer businesses are being burned down. All over America, pronouns are being dropped from bios. Men are (still) not having babies. And fewer drag queens are flashing their genitals at children.
What is Norming in America, you ask? Easy.
It’s the return of the word &#8220;illegal.&#8221; It’s Tom Homan on CNN citing chapter and verse of America’s legal code.
It’s leaving &#8220;wokeness and weakness&#8221; behind at the Pentagon. And it’s the sound of federal employees scattering as “Big Balls” from DOGE enters the building.
It’s the return of the Easter Bunny to the White House lawn instead of the trans guy flashing his chest for the camera.
It’s a press secretary who makes sense when she speaks. And it’s trying to keep up with a president who only needs three hours of sleep to make it through the day compared to a president who needed three naps.
It’s the return of biological reality and the removal of men from women’s sports and female prisons.
It’s America feeling like America again.
So join us, and let’s never go back to those weird, angry, divisive times again.

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The following is a distilled and edited transcript of an interview between Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley and Senator Marsha Blackburn (R-TN) on a <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/morning-wire/tesla-attacks-doge-government-waste-with-senator-marsha-blackburn-3-29-25" target="_blank" rel="noopener">weekend edition of Morning Wire</a>.
As Tesla owners face escalating attacks and the Biden-era federal budget balloons, Senator Marsha Blackburn says Americans are witnessing the backlash to Republican efficiency reforms and shrinking government. In a recent Morning Wire interview with Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley, Senator Blackburn outlines why the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) is under fire, and why she believes Democrats are “rudderless” and losing their grip on power.
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John Bickley: Senator, you’re bringing a resolution to the Senate floor that condemns attacks on Tesla. What prompted that move?
Senator Marsha Blackburn: It’s stunning that we’re seeing these violent attacks—vandalism, destruction of private property, even firebombings—and yet Democratic leadership is not standing up and calling out these acts of domestic terrorism. This resolution says the U.S. Senate stands against those acts of violence. Whether it’s Tesla dealerships, electric car owners, or charging stations being targeted, it’s unacceptable. So we think this resolution is appropriate. We want to give members of the U.S. Senate from each party, along with a couple of independents, the opportunity to stand up and say, “We condemn these attacks.”
Bickley: Elon Musk has suggested there’s big money and coordination behind these protests. Are you seeing evidence that this isn’t just grassroots chaos?
Sen. Blackburn: Yes. What we’ve heard — and what Musk has highlighted — is that this is something that is quite organized. We know they’re planning a so-called &#8220;Global Day of Action&#8221; against Tesla. The reasoning behind it is telling: it’s about their hatred for Donald Trump, their disdain for Elon Musk, and opposition to DOGE — the Department of Government Efficiency — which Musk helped establish in partnership with Congress. That’s the real target. Leftists need big government in order to survive. That’s their mother&#8217;s milk, if you will. These activist organizations can’t survive on their own — so when we start rooting out waste, fraud, and abuse in the federal system, they become distraught. DOGE is cutting off the pipeline of taxpayer money that’s been flowing into these nonprofits.
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Bickley: What kind of waste are we talking about here?
Sen. Blackburn: The Biden administration handed out billions to organizations that have no ability to stand on their own. I’ll give you one example: Stacey Abrams’ so-called “climate justice” nonprofit had about $100 in the bank, but somehow received $2 billion in federal money — that’s billion with a “B.” That’s not just wasteful, it’s offensive to taxpayers. All that money needs to be clawed back. It should go back to the U.S. Treasury and used to pay down our $36 trillion in debt. Then, we need to codify those cuts, making them permanent through rescission bills and reconciliation processes. That’s how we get to a balanced budget again. Right now we’re at $7.3 trillion. Trump’s target is $5.5 trillion.
Bickley: What specifically will the Senate do to make DOGE reforms permanent?
Sen. Blackburn: You&#8217;ll see us move quickly on a reconciliation bill to make the Trump 2017 tax cuts permanent. That’s step one. But just as important, we’re planning a rescission bill that includes DOGE’s spending reductions. That’s the mechanism for cutting these funds out of the federal budget baseline. The beauty of the rescission process is that it only requires 51 votes in the Senate, not 60. That gives us a real path to codify these cuts. We’re aiming to get back to pre-COVID levels of spending.
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Bickley: Final question. We&#8217;ve seen a lot of pressure mounting on Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer. Do you foresee a real shakeup with the Democrats in the near future?
Sen. Blackburn: I don’t think Chuck Schumer’s going anywhere. They’ve gone so far Left, however, that even their base is frustrated. If you look at the issues Americans care about — securing the border, deporting criminal illegal aliens, restoring law and order, getting men out of women’s sports, balancing the budget — these are 80/20 issues. Eighty percent of the people are in favor while 20% are opposed. But the Democrats are on the wrong side of every one of them. They oppose everything that&#8217;s being done to secure the border and deport criminal illegal aliens and get inflation down and get men out of women&#8217;s sports. The list goes on and on. So, they’re rudderless. They have no message, no messenger, no designated leaders. They’re pretty much out of the game.
Bickley: Senator Blackburn, thank you for your time.
Sen. Blackburn: Thanks. Always good to join you.
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Catch the full interview on <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/morning-wire/tesla-attacks-doge-government-waste-with-senator-marsha-blackburn-3-29-25" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Morning Wire</a>.

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This week, Daily Wire Editor Emeritus Ben Shapiro will begin a five-part series titled “The Case For Derek Chauvin.”
&#8220;This is going to be a comprehensive, multi-episode breakdown of the case — all the facts, all the evidence, all the political context,&#8221; Shapiro says in the first episode of the five-part series, which will premier Tuesday.
Chauvin was convicted in 2021 of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder, and second-degree manslaughter in the death of George Floyd after a traffic stop on May 25, 2020. He was sentenced to 22.5 years in prison. Chauvin appealed his conviction, but the Minnesota Supreme Court upheld the decision and the United States Supreme Court declined to review the case. After the verdict was delivered, President Joe Biden declared, “Today&#8217;s verdict is a step forward.”
Chauvin was later convicted on federal charges of depriving Floyd of his constitutional rights and <a href="https://www.justice.gov/archives/opa/pr/former-minneapolis-police-officer-derek-chauvin-sentenced-more-20-years-prison-depriving#:~:text=On%20Dec.,police%20officer%2C%20resulting%20in%20Mr.">received</a> a 21-year sentence.
Floyd’s death was used as justification for riots throughout the summer of 2020.
“Dozens of people were killed or injured in the violent unrest, and thousands of businesses and properties, many minority-owned, were looted, torched, or otherwise vandalized,” the Foundation for Economic Education <a href="https://fee.org/articles/george-floyd-riots-caused-record-setting-2-billion-in-damage-new-report-says-here-s-why-the-true-cost-is-even-higher/">noted</a>. Fifteen people <a href="https://dailycaller.com/2020/06/05/15-people-died-protests-riots-george-floyd-death/">reportedly died</a> as a result of the riots. “The arson, vandalism and looting… will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims,” Axios <a href="https://www.axios.com/riots-cost-property-damage-276c9bcc-a455-4067-b06a-66f9db4cea9c.html?utm_source=newsletter&amp;utm_medium=email&amp;utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&amp;stream=top">reported.</a> That only estimated losses that were insured, thus underestimating the likely damage.
Shapiro has called for President Trump to pardon Chauvin of the federal charges against him, stating:
&#8220;The evidence demonstrates that Derek Chauvin did not, in fact, commit murder of George Floyd. George Floyd was high on fentanyl. He had a significant preexisting heart condition. George Floyd was saying he could not breathe before he was even out of the car. He was in the car saying he could not breathe. Derek Chauvin, for a large segment of the tape that was shown, had his knee on George Floyd&#8217;s shoulder or back, not on his neck.&#8221;
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&#8220;The autopsy of George Floyd showed that he had no damage to his trachea, that probably George Floyd died of excited delirium,&#8221; Shapiro continued. &#8220;There were no accusations, even at trial, that Derek Chauvin had committed a hate crime against George Floyd, or that he targeted George Floyd because of his race.&#8221;
Shapiro noted that &#8220;it is worthwhile to remember that there is a man who is rotting in prison because the media decided in the middle of 2020 that they were going to turn a tragic law enforcement stop that ended with the death of a man who had a significant problem with drugs and preexisting health problems into the raison d’etre of the entire 2020 election.&#8221;
&#8220;It led to vast chaos,&#8221; Shapiro said. &#8220;It led to the destruction of racial comity in the United States, $2 billion in property damage, and a guy rotting in prison who, the evidence demonstrates, certainly was not guilty beyond reasonable doubt in that case.&#8221;

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<h3>Slashing Federal Spending: The Numbers So Far</h3>
In a sweeping effort to cut waste, the Elon Musk-led DOGE initiative has identified $105 billion in potential savings, largely from lease terminations, contract cancellations, and workforce reductions. The government has already terminated 748 leases, saving $468 million annually, and is set to shed a quarter of its 360 million square feet of federal real estate.
In a recent episode of <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/morning-wire" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Morning Wire</a>, Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley sat down with the Government Accountability Institute’s Eric Eggers, co-host of “<a href="https://thedrilldown.com/?utm_source=googlegrant&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwp8--BhBREiwAj7og1_0xdgsI4S9MyrRTJXF7PySBtYxy570busOI9NnJksvoQ_ia0RJBBhoCeGIQAvD_BwE" target="_blank" rel="noopener">The Drill Down with Peter Schweizer</a>,” to discuss the accomplishments of DOGE and the headwinds it faces in the coming months. 
<h3>1. How much has DOGE actually accomplished so far?</h3>
Eric Eggers: “If we’re talking dollars and cents, DOGE has identified $105 billion in savings — cutting federal leases, canceling contracts, and eliminating wasteful spending. The federal government is targeting a 63% reduction in the Public Building Services division, and one agency alone — USAID — has seen 83% of its programs cut. That’s tens of billions of dollars in savings.”
<h3>2. How has X and social media changed the conversation on government waste?</h3>
Eggers: “The Trump administration has become the most radically transparent administration in recent memory. Before, legacy media controlled the narrative. The American people are now seeing a lot of things exposed that the gatekeepers in the legacy media would have never exposed. Now, X puts out receipts in real time — like the General Services Administration buying 37,000 WinZip licenses for 13,000 employees. DOGE is making cutting spending ‘cool’ again.”
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<h3>3. What are the biggest pushbacks DOGE is facing?</h3>
Eggers: “Critics say these cuts are just a ‘drop in the bucket’ compared to the national deficit. The Supreme Court even blocked some USAID funding freezes. And now, Democrats are claiming DOGE is harming veterans, since 30% of federal workers are vets. We all saw Democrats protesting during his most recent congressional address, saying he&#8217;s a “dictator.” But at the end of the day, everything that&#8217;s being done in the name of cutting spending is being identified and posted on the DOGE website.&#8221;
<h3>4. What’s happening with federal job cuts, particularly at the IRS?</h3>
Eggers: “The IRS started this administration with about 100,000 employees. Reports say that number could be cut in half. And there was some talk about giving them weapons. The American public, however, seems to support the cuts — after all, downsizing for efficiency is standard in the private sector. Why should government be any different?”
<h3>5. What role is Elon Musk playing in all this?</h3>
Eggers: “Musk isn’t just backing DOGE financially—he’s essentially acting as its Chief Marketing Officer. By using X to put pressure on vulnerable politicians, making it harder for weak members of Congress and Trump’s coalition to resist these cuts. Musk and his team at X can take the specific examples and give them directly to the American people. That’s why this initiative has had so much success so quickly.”
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<a href="https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/morning-wire" target="_blank" rel="noopener">LISTEN: Catch the full interview with Eric Eggers on Morning Wire</a>.</h3>

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The following is a distilled and edited transcript of an interview between Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley and Dan Abrams, ABC News&#8217;s chief legal analyst and host of “On Patrol: Live.” Catch the full interview on a new <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/morning-wire">weekend edition of Morning Wire</a>.
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1. You have built a career at the intersection of law, media, and entertainment. What led you to create &#8220;<a href="https://www.reelz.com/show/on-patrol-live/">On Patrol: Live&#8221;</a> and why do you think it has resonated so strongly with audiences?
Dan Abrams: I’m a lawyer by training and I used that to quickly pivot into media, where I ended up covering some of the highest-profile criminal cases from the last three decades. That background is, I think, why the producers came to me to host what is now “<a href="https://www.reelz.com/show/on-patrol-live/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">On Patrol: Live</a>,” a live police show where we follow police departments in real time. This is a show that is different from any other police show out there because, unlike “Cops,” where it&#8217;s sort of a highlight reel of crazy moments, we’re actually live in eight or nine departments at once. So we&#8217;ll go to a department and we&#8217;ll see someone responding to a call and the officer doesn&#8217;t know what&#8217;s going to happen next. So, the audience joins the officers in that experience. I think that&#8217;s part of what makes the show so compelling.
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<li>Why It Matters: Authentic storytelling matters. Live coverage provides a raw, unfiltered look at policing, allowing audiences to see officers as they really are rather than through a scripted or dramatized lens.</li>
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2. The show was the #1 entertainment program on Friday and Saturday nights in 2024 and was picked up for 90 more episodes. Why do you think audiences are still drawn to &#8216;cop shows,&#8217; especially after efforts to cancel them in 2020?
Dan Abrams: People are interested in policing. There is an element of uncertainty throughout the show. Watching police engage with the community is something people have long been interested in. There&#8217;s no other place where they can see it in real time. As a result, we try to follow a mix of departments around the country to make this a really compelling show year after year. We look for both geographical diversity and diversity of the size of the department. We&#8217;re in everything from Las Vegas – one of the top 10 biggest police departments in America – to Hensley, Arkansas, where we ride with the chief of the department.
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<li>Why It Matters: Public interest in policing is unwavering. Despite political movements, the demand for real-time law enforcement coverage remains strong, demonstrating that audiences value transparency over ideology.</li>
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3. &#8216;Live PD&#8217; was canceled in 2020 following the George Floyd protests. You’ve been vocal about your frustration with that decision. What was that experience like, and how did it lead to &#8216;<a href="https://www.reelz.com/show/on-patrol-live/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">On Patrol: Live</a>&#8216;?
Dan Abrams: I thought it was a vast overreaction. That&#8217;s what I said when the show was cancelled – and I maintain it to this day. It&#8217;s important to talk about this because there&#8217;s going to be some other incident where a cop does something the cop shouldn&#8217;t have – and it might be really bad. And any good cop will tell you that the worst thing for good cops is a bad cop. No matter what career you&#8217;re talking about, considering there are hundreds of thousands of police officers around the country, you are going to have some bad cops. That doesn&#8217;t mean that the rest of the cops aren&#8217;t doing really good work.
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<li>Why It Matters: Balanced perspectives are essential. In an era of quick, reactionary decisions, maintaining a steady and fair approach to evaluating law enforcement is crucial to understanding the complexities of policing.</li>
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4. What’s your take on shifting public attitudes toward law enforcement in the last few years? Do you think the narrative is changing?
Dan Abrams: I think there’s been a recognition that the “Defund the Police” movement was absurd. It didn&#8217;t work. And that&#8217;s why liberal cities around the country are refunding the police and rehiring police officers. They realized it made no sense. I&#8217;ll tell you, as soon as “Live PD” was canceled, I received outreach from people asking me about the project. So, from a show perspective, I think it was really just a question of when. In the immediate months after the show went off the air, however, to many, the show would have been too hot – couldn&#8217;t do it, can&#8217;t risk it, don&#8217;t want to risk the protests, don&#8217;t want to risk the backlash. I do think that has faded to some degree.
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<li>Why It Matters: Public safety requires practical solutions. Knee-jerk policy shifts have real-world consequences, and restoring balance between law enforcement and community trust is a vital ongoing effort.</li>
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5. What’s next for you? Do you have any other projects in the works?
Dan Abrams: Well, I work on a lot of things. I host a daily radio show on Sirius XM on the POTUS channel. I&#8217;m still ABC News&#8217;s chief legal analyst. I own a company called Mediaite. I started &#8220;Law and Crime.&#8221; I&#8217;ve got a spirits company called Bottle Raiders, where we have an app that aggregates ratings of fine spirits and non-alcoholic drinks. So I&#8217;ve got my hand in a lot of projects, but “<a href="https://www.reelz.com/show/on-patrol-live/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">On Patrol: Live</a>” is a passion project for me.
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<li>Why It Matters: Media influences public perception. Abrams’ dedication to covering law and crime-related content ensures that audiences have access to informed, balanced perspectives on critical legal issues.</li>
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That was Dan Abrams, producer of “<a href="https://www.reelz.com/show/on-patrol-live/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">On Patrol: Live</a>” and this has been a <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/podcasts/morning-wire">weekend edition of Morning Wire</a>.

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