Rubio ‘Optimistic,’ But No Peace ‘As Long As There’s A Threat Emanating From Gaza’

Appearing on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday, Secretary of State Marco Rubio laid out the Trump administration’s latest push for peace between Israel and Hamas, arguing that the new proposal represents the closest the region has come to a full hostage release and offers a viable path to peace — if hard choices are made, and the right steps followed in order.

Rubio emphasized that the first phase of the Trump plan is non-negotiable and paramount: the release of all 48 hostages — 20 alive, 28 deceased — in exchange for Israel pulling its forces back to the so-called “yellow line,” a line roughly aligned with Israel’s military position as of August 2024. “This is the closest we’ve come to getting all of the hostages released,” Rubio told host Martha Raddatz, underscoring that “every single one” must come home before any long-term solutions can even be considered.

Rubio repeatedly stressed that everything depends on that initial breakthrough. “Priority number one is to get the hostages released,” he said flatly. Without that step, “you ain’t gonna have long-term peace here.”

The second phase of the deal, Rubio explained, involves building a governance structure for Gaza — something the U.S., Israel, and international partners would oversee. The vision includes technocrats, preferably Palestinian, with no ties to Hamas or any terror group. It’s a massive challenge, Rubio admitted, but essential to any “permanency to the end of the conflict.”

Raddatz pushed Rubio on the controversial issue of Palestinian statehood. “Yes or no: does the Trump administration support Palestinian statehood?” she asked. Rubio refused to box in the answer. “That’s not a yes or no question; that’s a process,” he replied. He acknowledged that the aspiration exists, but cautioned that statehood must be earned through credible governance and guaranteed security — not handed to an entity still harboring genocidal intent toward Israel. “Forget about statehood” if Gaza remains a breeding ground for terror, he said. “We can’t have a Palestinian state that’s governed by Hamas.”

That’s where demobilization enters — a critical piece of Phase Two. “As long as there’s a threat emanating from Gaza against Israel’s security,” Rubio warned, “there isn’t going to be peace.” Whether it’s Hamas or a future group, any entity committed to building tunnels, firing rockets, or kidnapping civilians must be disarmed and dismantled. “That demobilization has to happen,” Rubio declared. “Clearly, Hamas is an organization that we do not believe can be a part of that.”

Pressed on logistics, Rubio noted that military operations must pause to ensure safe hostage exchange. “You can’t have an exchange of hostages if bombs are going off and active combat is occurring,” he explained. Israel has agreed to suspend offensive operations — only responding to imminent threats like potential suicide attacks.

But with Hamas known for playing games, Rubio was also clear-eyed about risks: “If it’s clear that the hostages aren’t going to be released and they’re playing games,” he said, “then I think the president stated what our position is going to be.” He didn’t elaborate, but the implication was unmistakable: Hamas has a limited window to comply.

Rubio also made it clear that Trump wants the deal to move fast — no weeks of dithering over details. “We cannot be here three weeks from now still discussing the logistics of how hostages are going to be released,” Rubio warned.

In a nutshell, the Trump peace framework is two-fold: First, secure the hostages’ release, a non-negotiable prerequisite. Second, build a secure, non-terrorist governance structure for Gaza. And while Rubio remained “optimistic,” he also made it clear: “This is not going to be easy.”

But, he added, “We are in a much better place today than we were seven days ago.”

Sec Rubio: "Until Gaza is governed by people that are not interested in destroying Israel, until there are no security threats emanating against Israel from Gaza, forget about statehood.

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— Arsen Ostrovsky 🎗️ (@Ostrov_A) October 5, 2025

“This is the closest we've come to getting all of the hostages released. Every single one.”

Secretary of State Marco Rubio expressed optimism that a deal between Hamas and Israel to end the war in Gaza could finally be reached.

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