Television host Piers Morgan called “bulls***” on his guest — a doctor in Britain’s National Health Service — for referring to the October 7th massacre as “an act of resistance” and claiming that Hamas was not a terrorist organization but a group of “freedom fighters.”
Morgan posted a clip from the interview on his show, “Piers Morgan Uncensored,” with NHS Dr. Wahid Asif Shaida, to social media with the caption, “‘How can you, a British NHS doctor, say that’s a ‘welcome punch on the nose’?’ Piers Morgan vehemently challenges Dr Abdul Wahid for his comments about the Hamas attacks on Oct 7.”
"How can you, a British NHS doctor, say that's a 'welcome punch on the nose'?"
Piers Morgan vehemently challenges Dr Abdul Wahid for his comments about the Hamas attacks on Oct 7.@piersmorgan | @TalkTV | #PMU pic.twitter.com/Bj4eiQBfDd
— Piers Morgan Uncensored (@PiersUncensored) December 11, 2023
Morgan began with a clip from another interview in which the doctor referred to Hamas terrorists as the “brave Mujahideen” and called the deadly October 7th attack on Israeli civilians a “very welcome punch on the nose.”
Morgan asked how he, as a doctor with the NHS, could refer to Hamas’ unrestrained brutality against women and children as “resistance.”
“How can you categorize a terror attack — in which 1,200 mostly innocent civilian people were brutally attacked, raped, tortured, beheaded, and murdered — how can you, a British NHS doctor, an NHS doctor in Britain, how can you say that’s a ‘welcome punch on the nose’?”
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Dr. Shaida said he would answer the question, but only if Morgan agreed to let him give his full response — which the host said he would do.
“I will be frank, I’ll be as concise as I can be,” Shaida said. “But if you give me the courtesy of letting me answer fully.”
Morgan once again agreed, and Shaida began, “I will defend the right of the Palestinians to resist an occupation. When you look at that —”
“That’s not resistance, that’s terrorism!” Morgan objected.
Shaida pivoted slightly, suggesting that October 7th only seemed like terrorism if one believed that the history of the conflict between the Israelis and the Palestinians had only begun that day. He then complained that the word terrorism itself had become too “political,” but Morgan brought the conversation back to the topic at hand.
“You can be deeply sympathetic to the plight of Palestinian civilians, which I am by the way and have expressed many times,” Morgan said. “What you can’t do is be weaselly-mouthed about what happened on October the 7th. That was a grotesque terror attack.”
Dr. Shaida continued to complain about the “politicization” of the word terrorism, and Morgan finally asked him directly: “Do you think what happened October the 7th was a terror attack?”
Shaida pushed back again, calling it “resistance.” He went on to cite the Islamic “standard in conflict” which did not allow the killing of children or women or mutilation of those they did kill — and Morgan immediately pointed out that Hamas had done all of those things and more.
“If anybody did that —” Shaida said.
“What do you mean, ‘if’?” Morgan practically shouted back. “They literally broadcast it on their own streaming platforms! Hamas broadcast it merrily to the world. ‘Here’s us doing these terrible things.’ What do you mean, ‘if’?”
Shaida eventually conceded that 1,200 people had been killed on October 7th.
“By terrorists?” Morgan prompted.
“By people who were resisting an occupation,” Shaida insisted.
“Bulls***,” Morgan lost his patience.
“Have you not heard the adage: ‘One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter’?” Shaida tried once more, but Morgan was not having it.
“Bulls***,” he said again.