Speaking to conservative podcast host Charlie Kirk, Kyle Rittenhouse detailed this week what he thought were the two critical points in his trial that showed him favorability, and he revealed that the state had “no case” against him — and both points hit very early in the trial.
“At what point in the trial were you like, okay this is going in a direction that is somewhat favorable,” Kirk asked Rittenhouse.
“There were two, actually, from when I knew the state didn’t have a case,” the teenager explained.
“It’s when they had their opening statements and when they put Dominick Black (Rittenhouse’s friend) on the stand, which really helped me. That’s when I knew that they didn’t have a case.”
“So the opening statements, you already knew?” Kirk said.
“Yeah,” Rittenhouse said, explaining the prosecution claiming that the teenager “chased down” Joseph Rosenbaum, “which is not true.”
Notably, prosecution reframed their arguments after their opening claim that Rittenhouse chased Rosenbaum fell apart. Instead, the team shifted to accusing Rittenhouse of “provocation,” seemingly for merely being present and having a rifle.
“What exactly was [prosecution’s] strategy for putting Black on the stand, because his story completely lined up with your story,” journalist Jack Posobiec interjected, posing the question to Rittenhouse.
“I think they called Dominick to the stand hoping that he would lie,” Rittenhouse stated bluntly. “But Dominick was under oath and he told the truth.”
During the same podcast, the teen revealed what was on his mind during the trial as he sat expressionless like a “potted plant.”
“Believe it or not, I’m freaking out behind the scenes, because you don’t know what’s gonna happen,” Rittenhouse told Kirk, describing how he dealt with the trial and public spectacle.
The teen credited his support group, including his three attorneys, for helping him “stay calm.”
“What I’m thinking when I’m just the blank-faced, potted plant in court, I’m just saying in my head, ‘Is this guy serious?’ referring to ‘Lunchbox’ and Binger, also known as ‘Little Finger,’” said Rittenhouse.
The name “Lunchbox” is a reference to Assistant District Attorney James Kraus, who was given the nickname by some online commentators, perhaps due to his weight. “Little Finger” and “Little Binger” were common nicknames for Assistant District Attorney Thomas Binger.
Kraus and Binger led the prosecution against Rittenhouse, who was facing life in prison without the chance of parole.
The teen was eventually found not guilty by a jury on all counts. Following the verdict, Rittenhouse declared “self defense” still legal.
“It’s been a rough journey, but we made it through it,” the 18-year-old said. “We made it through the hard part.”
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