‘That’s All There Is To It’: Famed Biologist Confirms ‘There Are Two Sexes,’ Defends J.K. Rowling
SYDNEY, AUSTRALIA - DECEMBER 04: Richard Dawkins, founder of the Richard Dawkins Foundation for Reason and Science,promotes his new book at the Seymour Centre on December 4, 2014 in Sydney, Australia. Richard Dawkins is well known for his criticism of intelligent design. (Photo by Don Arnold/Getty Images)
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British evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins confirmed that, according to his decades of study on the subject, there were only two biological sexes — and decried activists who attacked author J.K. Rowling for saying so as “bullies.”

Dawkins joined host Piers Morgan on his show “Uncensored,” and the conversation turned to concerted efforts by activists within the LGBTQ community to erase sex and gender from language.


“What is troubling to me is that they want to — what they call ‘de-gender’ and neutralize language,” Morgan prompted, adding, “But they’re doing it from a completely false pretense, that you can somehow pretend biology doesn’t exist.”

Morgan went on to point out the fact that, despite being at odds with “incontrovertible” biological realities, those activists still appeared to be enjoying some measure of success — at least temporarily.

“We’ve seen the way J.K. Rowling has been bullied, the way Kathleen Stock has been bullied,” Dawkins agreed. “They’ve stood up to it. But it’s very upsetting, the way this tiny minority of people has managed to capture the discourse and to really talk errant nonsense.”

“What’s the answer to it?” Morgan asked.


“Science,” was Dawkins’ matter-of-fact reply. “There are two sexes. You can talk about gender if you wish, and that’s … I’m not interested in that. As a biologist, there are two sexes and that’s all there is to it.”

Morgan then noted that Dawkins was stripped of a humanist award in 2021 for his comments on such issues — namely a tweet he shared on April 10, 2021: “In 2015, Rachel Dolezal, a white chapter president of NAACP, was vilified for identifying as Black. Some men choose to identify as women, and some women choose to identify as men. You will be vilified if you deny that they literally are what they identify as. Discuss.”

Dawkins had previously responded to attempts to change language around the demands of activists, promising to defy the new rules and saying that the only reasonable response to such attempts was “ridicule.”

“The only possible response is contemptuous ridicule. I shall continue to use every one of the prohibited words. I am a professional user of the English language. It is my native language,” he said.

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