Senator Rubén Gallego (D-AZ) became visibly agitated when CNBC host Joe Kernen confronted him directly on how he&#8217;d responded to government shutdowns in the past — particularly when Republicans had been the ones making demands — and Kernen ultimately pulled the plug on the entire interview.
&#8220;If Republicans shut down the government the next time Democrats are in charge to extract whatever it is that they happen to want —&#8221; Kernen began.
&#8220;Like they did last time?&#8221; Gallego interrupted.
&#8220;Are you saying that&#8217;s okay? Are you saying that&#8217;s okay if they do that next time?&#8221; Kernen asked.
&#8220;Republicans have done this quite a while, yes,&#8221; Gallego claimed.
&#8220;What did you say about it when they did it?&#8221; Kernen asked.
&#8220;I don&#8217;t know and I don&#8217;t care,&#8221; Gallego shot back.
WATCH:
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&#8220;I don&#8217;t know and I don&#8217;t care,&#8221; says petulant baby <a href="https://twitter.com/RubenGallego?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RubenGallego</a> when asked about his past shutdown comments.
Here&#8217;s a reminder —
2013: You can&#8217;t &#8220;shutdown the government&#8230; and still claim to be a Patriot&#8221;
2019: &#8220;Putting the country in danger&#8221;
2023: &#8220;Put country before… <a href="https://t.co/JbA7aU1M2B">pic.twitter.com/JbA7aU1M2B</a>
— Rapid Response 47 (@RapidResponse47) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapidResponse47/status/1982820587664773395?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2025</a></blockquote>
The interview did not get less contentious from there.
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Kernen and Gallego clashed over Democrats&#8217; demands for reopening the government, in large part because Gallego claimed Democrats were not making any demands and then in the same breath explained what he and other Democrats &#8220;want&#8221; before they&#8217;ll vote to reopen the government.
WATCH:
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Senator Gallego (D-AZ) claims Democrats aren&#8217;t &#8220;demanding anything&#8221; to reopen the government.
This is a lie.
Democrats have spent the last month demanding a plethora of things, including $1.5T in spending, which could allow illegal aliens to receive taxpayer-funded healthcare. <a href="https://t.co/IiZdP4U8Dt">pic.twitter.com/IiZdP4U8Dt</a>
— Media Lies (@MediasLies) <a href="https://twitter.com/MediasLies/status/1982817215616254142?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">October 27, 2025</a></blockquote>
&#8220;We’re demanding a very simple thing. … We want to make sure that Americans, 24 million Americans, do not see their insurance premiums doubled,&#8221; Gallego said at first.
&#8220;Well, by not extending [subsidies], it would go up. But what’s the $1.5 trillion, Senator? You could extend those for one year, you could extend the Obamacare subsidies for $40 billion. For 10 years, you can do it for $345 billion. You’re asking for $1.5 trillion.&#8221;
&#8220;I’m sorry, are you an insurance broker?&#8221; Gallego objected, and then insisted that the money was all to prevent increases in premiums.
&#8220;What’s in the $1.5 trillion? You could do it for 10 years, Senator, for $345 billion. What’s the $1.5 trillion that Democrats are demanding to open the government?&#8221; Kernen asked again.
&#8220;We’re not demanding anything. This is just a Republican talking point,&#8221; Gallego claimed. &#8220;All I want is for the ACA to be extended for Americans, for 24 million people to not get their premiums doubled. In Arizona, we are talking about 500,000 people.&#8221;

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