Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum&#8217;s patience ran out during a Wednesday segment when American Federation of Teachers President Randi Weingarten interrupted her — and called her &#8220;sweetheart&#8221; — before she was forced to backpedal and eventually apologize.
MacCallum brought Weingarten in as a guest on &#8220;The Story,&#8221; where she asked about issues raised by a current case before the United States Supreme Court — Mahmoud v. Taylor — that involves a group of parents demanding an &#8220;opt out&#8221; for certain LGBTQ-themed lessons in the Montgomery County School District in Maryland. While Weingarten said that she could not comment directly on the case, she said that she was happy to talk about the broader issues at hand.
The Fox News anchor pointed to the dismal test scores recorded across the board at that particular school district, and asked why the schools were more worried about mandating books about pronouns than about ensuring that kids were actually learning to read, write, and understand mathematics.
&#8220;Look at this. I mean this — if this isn’t a failure that needs to be so much more important than whether or not you’re reading a book about your pronouns. This is the Maryland rankings,&#8221; MacCallum said. &#8220;Fourth graders, these same little kids who’ve had these books, you know, fed to them at a very young age, their reading ranked in 2013, they were second in the nation in Maryland. 2024, 20th. Math, 16th in the nation, plummeting down to 39th. So if I were a parent in this district, I would be saying, &#8216;Please, please leave these books out of the picture teach my child to read and to do math okay, and let’s focus on why we’re there.'&#8221;
Weingarten argued that scores were going up in Massachusetts and down in Florida — which she claimed was proof that Florida&#8217;s anti-&#8220;woke&#8221; model was not working and that throwing more money at education was the answer. MacCallum pushed back, saying that Newark, New Jersey — where per capita student funding was among the highest in the nation — suggested otherwise.
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After repeating over and over that she&#39;s fighting for respect for women, awful union boss Randi Weingarten then sounds like an old 1970&#39;s Lou Grant calling Martha McCallum &quot;sweetheart&quot;:<a href="https://t.co/YgsD5JHDC1">pic.twitter.com/YgsD5JHDC1</a>
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But as MacCallum was trying to make her point, Weingarten attempted to shut her down: &#8220;Martha, Martha, sweetheart, sweetheart, listen to me —&#8221;
&#8220;Please don&#8217;t call me sweetheart,&#8221; MacCallum objected, clearly fed up.
&#8220;I’m sorry — my bad,&#8221; Weingarten backpedaled, but continued to claim that education problems could be fixed with more money.
MacCallum, referencing the state of Mississippi, pointed out that what was done with that money was also important. &#8220;Well, one of the things that they’ve done in Mississippi is to expand choice. They’re also doing something really important in Mississippi, which is to expand teacher training,&#8221; she said.

Walker Hayes Visits “The Story With Martha MacCallum”

‘Don’t Call Me Sweetheart’: Disgusted Fox News Anchor Fires Back At Teachers Union Prez

'Don't Call Me Sweetheart': Disgusted Fox News Anchor Fires Back At Randi Weingarten

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Randi Weingarten

Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum appeared to lose her patience with Senator Chris Coons (D-DE) during a Wednesday interview on &#8220;The Story,&#8221; calling him out directly for refusing to acknowledge the massive amounts of fraud, waste, and abuse that have been uncovered by the Department Of Government Efficiency (DOGE).
MacCallum asked Coons for his reaction to the numbers that DOGE has been putting out since its inception — particularly with regard to Social Security — and the Delaware Democrat repeatedly attempted to downplay the DOGE team&#8217;s findings and dismiss them as just a &#8220;small percentage&#8221; of the federal government&#8217;s budget.
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&quot;You can&#39;t just put your fingers in your ear and going &#39;blah blah blah, it&#39;s not happening!&#39;&quot;
Things get HEATED when Fox News’ Martha McCallum calls out Sen. Chris Coons for ignoring the waste, fraud, and abuse found by DOGE. <a href="https://t.co/DVopEYRakU">pic.twitter.com/DVopEYRakU</a>
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&#8220;Were you as shocked as I was when you heard some of that — some of those numbers, some of the information about how much fraud is happening in Social Security, Senator?&#8221; MacCallum asked Coons about the DOGE findings thus far.
&#8220;So, Martha, not only do I not believe some of what was just shared there, but the Trump administration&#8217;s acting administrator of Social Security has said that less than one-tenth of one percent of the payments put out by the Social Security administration are fraudulent or in error,&#8221; Coons protested. What he did not mention was the fact that Social Security is projected to pay out some $1.6 trillion in 2025 alone, making even one-tenth of one percent a pretty hefty sum.
Coons then tried to turn the conversation back on billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk, saying that he was &#8220;alarmed&#8221; that the DOGE team could potentially have access to information on millions of Americans. &#8220;Elon Musk has made it clear that he thinks Social Security is a Ponzi scheme,&#8221; he said. &#8220;A Ponzi scheme is itself fraudulent, fake, criminal, or illegal. I don&#8217;t think Social Security is a Ponzi scheme. I think 70 million Americans depend on it for their principal source of income.&#8221;
&#8220;Too bad, because in ten years —&#8221; MacCallum referenced the increasing likelihood that Social Security would be insolvent within a decade.
&#8220;Let me ask you a question, Senator. Let me ask you a question. You&#8217;ve made a lot of points, let me ask you a question,&#8221; MacCallum tried to break through as Coons continued his rant. &#8220;You say all those millions of people depend on Social Security, so you don&#8217;t care about the ones that are going to never get it because it&#8217;s going to be insolvent in ten years. What have Democrats done? What did Joe Biden&#8217;s administration do to find the waste, fraud, and abuse in Social Security to try to shore up this important agency? What did they do? Can you tell me?&#8221;
&#8220;Sure,&#8221; Coons agreed. &#8220;Martha, you are presuming widespread waste, fraud, and abuse in Social Security. You haven&#8217;t offered any credible evidence to support that. I don&#8217;t believe what DOGE says about virtually any federal agency.&#8221;
The interview continued in that same tone until MacCallum finally called Coons out directly: &#8220;I don&#8217;t know why you don&#8217;t want to hear it! It&#8217;s like — you can&#8217;t just put your fingers in your ear and go &#8216;blah blah blah,&#8217; like it&#8217;s not happening!&#8221;

Fox News Reports On President Trump’s Joint Address To Congress

Martha MacCallum Blasts Dem For Ignoring Waste, Fraud: ‘Can’t Just Put Your Fingers In Your Ear!’

MacCallum Blasts Dem For Ignoring Waste, Fraud: 'You Can't Just Put Your Fingers In Your Ear!'

Chris Coons

Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE)

A conversation between Fox News anchors Bret Baier, Martha MacCallum, and former President Donald Trump was abruptly cut off on Thursday night as the network cut to the beginning of Greg Gutfeld&#8217;s late-night show — so the former president called Gutfeld&#8217;s cell phone.
Trump was giving his response to Vice President Kamala Harris&#8217; Democratic National Convention speech when Baier and MacCallum told him they had to move the programming over to &#8220;Gutfeld!&#8221;.
&#8220;That wasn&#8217;t my fault, Donald Trump. He&#8217;s still talking by the way,&#8221; Gutfeld joked at the beginning of his show.
Moments later, Trump called the late-night Fox News host.
“Mr. President, I’m live now, say hello to my audience. So don’t say anything that will get you in trouble!” Gutfeld said to the cheers of the live audience.
&#8220;At this point, what difference does it make?&#8221; Trump replied. &#8220;We’re doing well; we’re leading in the polls.&#8221;
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The Republican nominee spoke for a few more seconds, commenting on the Democrats&#8217; nomination of Harris and saying President Joe Biden was forced out of the race in a &#8220;coup.&#8221;
&#8220;Alright, Mr. P, I got to go!&#8221; Gutfeld said before ending the call and returning to his show&#8217;s scheduled programming.
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This is awesome. Trump just called into Gutfeld live after Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum cut him off minutes earlier 😂
The man is an absolute legend. <a href="https://t.co/9Pg9U6vdyg">pic.twitter.com/9Pg9U6vdyg</a>
— Patri0tsareinContr0l (@Patri0tContr0l) <a href="https://twitter.com/Patri0tContr0l/status/1826844325872803905?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 23, 2024</a></blockquote>
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While Harris delivered her DNC address on Thursday night, Trump <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-responds-to-kamalas-dnc-speech-complaining-about-everything-but-doing-nothing?topStoryPosition=1" target="_blank" rel="noopener">responded</a> to it in real-time, firing off numerous posts on Truth Social. The nearly 40-minute-long <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/23/us/politics/kamala-harris-speech-transcript.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener">speech</a> focused on hammering Trump as the vice president mentioned his name a total of 16 times.
&#8220;Fellow Americans, this election is not only the most important of our lives, it is one of the most important in the life of our nation. In many ways, Donald Trump is an unserious man,&#8221; Harris said. &#8220;But the consequences — but the consequences of putting Donald Trump back in the White House are extremely serious.&#8221;
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Trump responded to Harris&#8217; attacks, <a href="https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/113009140194457880" target="_blank" rel="noopener">writing</a>, “She’s done nothing for three and a half years but talk, and that’s what she’s doing tonight, she’s complaining about everything but doing nothing!” Trump wrote in one post. “She should leave the Speech right now, go to Washington, D.C., close the Border, allow fracking in Pennsylvania and other places, and start doing the things she’s complaining about aren’t done!”

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Fox News Cut Trump Off For Gutfeld!, So Trump Called Gutfeld Live On Air

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Bret Baier

Democratic National Convention

Donald Trump

Greg Gutfeld

Kamala Harris

Fox News host Martha MacCallum blasted U.S. National Security Council spokesman John Kirby during an interview this week for saying President Joe Biden is taking the border crisis seriously.
The Wednesday interview happened as millions of illegal aliens have unlawfully entered the U.S. southern border under Biden&#8217;s administration, which has resulted in states starting to act on their own.
MacCallum noted that the illegal immigration issue had been the top concern for voters in Iowa and New Hampshire.
When Kirby said that Biden has tried to act with a sense of urgency to fix the crisis, MacCallum shot back: &#8220;He’s been president for three years.&#8221;
&#8220;This is not just the same old immigration issue we’ve had going on for a decade as he said the other day,&#8221; she continued. &#8220;These are record numbers all the time. And people in Iowa and New Hampshire are the ones that are expressing concerns about it. This isn’t Arizona and Texas. This is Iowa and New Hampshire. I don’t think that people sense that there’s an urgency to address this.&#8221;
Kirby said that Biden was &#8220;limited&#8221; in what actions he could take, saying that Congress was moving forward with a plan to address the issue.
“They’re not really moving along well,” MacCallum fired back. “You say he’s been concerned about it for three years, but that’s failing, obviously. When you have record numbers of people coming in, that means the policy’s failing. So, why not change gears and try to do something that works?”
MacCallum continued to press Kirby: &#8220;John, do we have a border? Do we have a southern border? Do we have a southern border?&#8221;
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&#8220;Yes, ma’am,&#8221; he responded. &#8220;Of course we do.&#8221;
&#8220;Then how come people can flow across it every single day?&#8221; she pressed. &#8220;Hundreds of thousands of people? Three hundred thousand people in December.&#8221;
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DO WE HAVE A SOUTHERN BORDER? I asked John Kirby, here’s what he had to say: <a href="https://t.co/MD5vIW129y">pic.twitter.com/MD5vIW129y</a>
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White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre And NSC Coordinator John Kirby Hold Daily Press Briefing

WATCH: Martha MacCallum Blasts John Kirby For Claiming Biden Is Trying To Fix Border Crisis

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John Kirby

Georgia gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams (D) refused to name a single restriction on abortion that she supports when pressed multiple times on the matter during interviews on Sunday.
Abrams was asked on Fox News&#8217; &#8220;Fox News Sunday&#8221; with co-host Martha MacCallum if she supported Georgia&#8217;s new pro-life law, which puts a ban on abortions after six weeks or after a heart beat is detected.
&#8220;So with regard to that law, I know that you said you were appalled by the outcome of the court&#8217;s decision,&#8221; MacCallum said. &#8220;But given the law that was voted in by the legislature in Georgia, do you support the fact that they will carry out the will of the people in Georgia and put that law at a six-week ban into effect?&#8221;
&#8220;I do not,&#8221; Abrams responded. &#8220;And I would reject the notion that this is the will of the people. This is a political decision made by the narrowest of margins and done to satisfy an even narrower constituency.&#8221;
&#8220;Do you support any limitation on abortion or do you think that women should have the right to have an abortion all the way up to nine months?&#8221; MacCallum asked.
&#8220;I believe an abortion is a medical decision,&#8221; Abrams responded. &#8220;I believe that should be a choice made between a doctor and a woman and in consultation with her family. But I think the challenge that we have is that we keep putting this in a political space.&#8221;
MacCallum later asked &#8220;at what point do you start to care about the life of that baby?&#8221;
&#8220;What I would say is that it is a medical decision,&#8221; Abrams responded. &#8220;I don&#8217;t know of a single woman who reaches the stage where this decision is easy.&#8221;
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Stacey Abrams supports NO LIMITS on abortion. 
Q: “Do you support any limitation on abortion? Or do you think that women should have the right to have an abortion all the way up to nine months?” 
ABRAMS: “That should be a choice made between a doctor and a woman.” <a href="https://t.co/7mxsHXzpoP">pic.twitter.com/7mxsHXzpoP</a>
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Abrams was again pressed on the matter during an interview with CNN&#8217;s Jake Tapper on the network&#8217;s &#8220;State of the Union.&#8221;
&#8220;As you know, polling on abortion is very complicated, and, in more nuanced questions, most Americans support at least some restrictions on abortion overall,&#8221; Tapper said. &#8220;Do you think the government should play any role in restricting abortion? As governor, what restrictions would you be willing to support in Georgia, if any?&#8221;
&#8220;Those medical choices should not be governed by someone&#8217;s religious or ideological convictions,&#8221; Abrams responded. &#8220;And if we&#8217;re going to make medical decisions, they should be made with medical input, not at the whim of politicians.&#8221;
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Democrat Stacey Abrams refuses to name ANY restrictions she supports on abortion. <a href="https://t.co/1BqTSk821E">pic.twitter.com/1BqTSk821E</a>
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Democratic Gubernatorial Candidate Stacey Abrams Holds Campaign Event

Democrat Stacey Abrams Takes Extreme Position On Abortion During Race For Georgia’s Governorship

Abortion

Stacey Abrams

Former White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove slammed White House Council of Economic Adviser Chairman Brian Deese for calling for more federal spending to combat inflation.
Appearing as a panelist on &#8220;Fox News Sunday,&#8221; Rove blasted Deese, who had been interviewed earlier in the program, for failing to acknowledge that the root cause of inflation is reckless government spending. Rove described Deese as &#8220;one of the most fervent advocates for making it worse.&#8221;
During the interview, <a href="https://video.foxnews.com/v/6306622584112?playlist_id=930909788001#sp=show-clips">Deese</a> said that the U.S. economy was &#8220;in a period of transition&#8221; from rapid recovery to &#8220;a period of more stable and resilient growth.&#8221; Guest host Martha MacCallum challenged Deese on the point, noting that soaring <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/experts-make-dire-warning-on-already-record-level-inflation">inflation</a> and <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/nationwide-gas-prices-expected-could-hit-staggering-new-high-by-august-top-u-s-bank-analyst-says">gas prices</a>, combined with a declining <a href="https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/20/stocks-head-for-another-potentially-treacherous-week-after-sp-500-falls-into-bear-market-territory.html">stock market</a>, are forcing Americans to make difficult decisions.
&#8220;What do you recommend to them in terms of specifics and what they can do to try to weather this a little bit easier as we go through what you&#8217;re calling a transition?&#8221; MacCallum asked.
&#8220;What people should know is that we can do this,&#8221; Deese responded. &#8220;We know how to do this. First, we need to give the Federal Reserve the independence to do what it does. It has the tools to combat inflation. Second, we need to reduce costs and make things more affordable for families during this period&#8230; reduce the cost of the Internet bills that families pay, or the prescription drug prices that they pay&#8230; And, third, we need to bring down the federal deficit. Because of the president&#8217;s policies, we&#8217;ve made a lot of progress on that front, the deficit down $1.5 trillion already this year. But we need to make more progress on that as well. That will help produce price pressures in the economy.&#8221;
&#8220;We need to build a more resilient recovery,&#8221; he added. &#8220;We&#8217;re on the way. We&#8217;ve got to focus on tackling inflation right now, and that&#8217;s what this president&#8217;s doing.&#8221;
MacCallum then asked Rove during the panel segment to respond to Deese&#8217;s comments.
&#8220;Well, if you don&#8217;t know what the problem is, you can&#8217;t come up with a solution,&#8221; Rove <a href="https://radio.foxnews.com/podcast/fox-news-sunday/">responded</a>. &#8220;And he, obviously, doesn&#8217;t know what the problem is. The problem was identified last year, when this administration proposed a $1.9 trillion unnecessary Covid stimulus bill. And Larry Summers, Bill Clinton&#8217;s Treasury Secretary, said you&#8217;re going to throw gasoline on the fire of inflation. And that&#8217;s exactly what happened. And since then, Brian Deese has been one of the most fervent advocates for making it worse. What you heard him say there, he sort of carefully camouflaged it, was, Build Back Better. Let&#8217;s pass a new bill that supposedly lowers costs by spending lots of government money on free child care, for universal pre-K, pharmaceuticals, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. [That would] only make it worse. The administration is in bad shape on this issue. [A] <a href="https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/05/Fox_April-28-May-1-2022_National_Topline_May-3-Release.pdf">36 percent approval</a> on the economy, 60 percent disapproval, and, inflation, 26 percent approve, 68 percent disapprove, and that&#8217;s why&#8211; policies like the ones that Mr. Deese was talking about.&#8221;

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Karl Rove Blasts WH Economic Adviser Calling For More Spending: ‘Gasoline On The Fire’

Fox News Sunday

Inflation

Karl Rove

Fox News anchor Martha MacCallum was forced to step in and referee after a debate between guests Richard Goodstein and Pete Hegseth got heated.
MacCallum started the segment off with a question about President Joe Biden&#8217;s harsh criticism of the recently-leaked <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/shapiro-draft-supreme-court-majority-opinion-leaks-striking-down-roe-v-wade-heres-what-all-of-that-means/">early opinion draft</a> — calling for landmark abortion cases Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood v. Casey to be overturned — and what he called the &#8220;ultra-MAGA agenda.&#8221;
Was it wise, MacCallum wondered, for Biden to risk <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/what-is-he-talking-about-peter-doocy-asks-why-biden-thinks-republicans-will-segregate-lgbtq-kids/">alienating half the country</a> in an effort to rally support going into the quickly-approaching midterm elections?
&#8220;Is it wise. Is it politically wise? You have a lot of people who live in the suburbs a lot of independent voters, like 70%, that have a disapproval for this president. Is it wise to do sort of the &#8216;basket of deplorables&#8217; plan here? Is that smart on the part of this president?&#8221; she asked.
Goodstein, who worked as an advisor to both former President Bill Clinton and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, immediately attempted to change the subject.
&#8220;That’s not what he said at all. He said, you know, the police are the good guys. Donald Trump watched the police get their heads bashed in —&#8221; he began, but Hegseth interrupted.
&#8220;Back to January 6,&#8221; Hegseth said. &#8220;Go to the talking point. Go to the talking point. Did you say the same thing about the rioters and the BLM protesters?&#8221;
&#8220;They burned a Biden headquarters, too, so to lay them at the feet of Democrats is nonsense,&#8221; Goodstein said. &#8220;So the fact of the matter is, Martha, to answer your question —&#8221;
&#8220;Is it politically wise to alienate half the country with that comment? Is that wise?&#8221; MacCallum asked again.
Goodstein argued that independents did not like extremes and did not believe things like abortion should be &#8220;off the table.&#8221;
&#8220;That isn&#8217;t what the opinion says and I&#8217;m not going to let you get away with saying that,&#8221; MacCallum jumped back in then, noting that <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/jen-psaki-wont-say-whether-biden-would-accept-roe-decision-as-legitimate/">if Roe were to be overturned</a>, the states would still have the ability to determine their own abortion laws and restrictions.
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Fox News&#39; Pete Hegseth: &quot;You&#39;re the party of defund the police!&quot;
Ex-Clinton advisor: &quot;And you’re the party of bashing police on the Capitol ground!&quot;
Martha MacCallum: &quot;That&#39;s not fair! Nobody wants to see – we’re like normal people! Okay?&quot; <a href="https://t.co/YGQ96WCshc">pic.twitter.com/YGQ96WCshc</a>
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&#8220;A bunch of people who work at the Supreme Court don&#8217;t get to decide, I get to decide for my own self and for my own state with my vote,&#8221; she said.
&#8220;Over a dozen states have already basically passed laws saying no exceptions. Health of the mother, nothing. No rape, no —&#8221; Goodstein objected.
&#8220;Those will have to be approved by the people of the state with their vote,&#8221; MacCallum pushed back.
Goodstein argued that some of the laws had already been passed — at which point Hegseth noted that the people in those states had voted for the representatives who passed those laws.
&#8220;You’re the party that runs around yelling &#8216;Democracy dies in darkness,’” Hegseth argued. &#8220;Democracy is the people voting — the closest voting to the people is the most effective —&#8221;
&#8220;And Martha’s question, is that a way to reach independents, the answer is they are freaked out at the notion that those laws could become law,&#8221; Goodstein said.
&#8220;Here&#8217;s what they&#8217;re freaked out about: You’re the party of defund the police, you&#8217;re the party of open borders, you&#8217;re the party of injecting race —&#8221; Hegseth interrupted.
&#8220;And you’re the party of bashing police on the Capitol grounds, okay?&#8221; Goodstein pushed back.
&#8220;No, no, no. You know what? That’s not fair,&#8221; MacCallum interrupted. &#8220;It&#8217;s not fair. Nobody wants to see — we’re like normal people, okay? We don’t want — nobody wants to see a policeman’s head bashed in. Whether it’s at the Capitol, I don’t want to see police officers in Minneapolis chased out of their own precinct and driven away from their own precinct, I don&#8217;t want to see that either.&#8221;
&#8220;We have a fair forum here,&#8221; MacCallum concluded. &#8220;I’m going to keep that because I want to see — when it comes time to vote, I want to see what independents actually do. That’s what is going to be so fascinating about watching this mid-term process, because how do they feel? What is more important to them? Inflation or what is happening at the Supreme Court. We’ll see. We’ll see what they decide.&#8221;

‘That’s Not Fair!’: Martha MacCallum Forced To Referee As Debate Goes Off The Rails During Live Show

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Fox News host Martha MacCallum challenged National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan directly on American energy independence, and he appeared to struggle with an answer to her question.
Sullivan joined MacCallum for a morning interview on &#8220;Fox News Sunday,&#8221; and she pressed him on the United States&#8217; dependence on foreign sources for energy despite being a <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/you-would-have-a-trifecta-mike-pompeo-says-biden-could-do-three-things-right-now-to-turn-us-energy-policy-around/">net exporter of energy</a> prior to President Joe Biden taking office.
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&#8220;Why not reopen the Keystone Pipeline and reopen federal leases on U.S. land? Because we had energy independence and that was large leverage for the United States over Russia. Now we don’t have that anymore,&#8221; MacCallum began. &#8220;In fact we now buy more fuel from Russia than we have in the past, so how – why wouldn’t you want to revisit those in order to increase our leverage over Russia?&#8221;
&#8220;Well, first, Martha, the United States is still a substantial producer of energy,&#8221; Sullivan pushed back. &#8220;Second, we have worked with partners around the world to take steps to ensure that Russia’s attempts to use energy as a weapon get frustrated.&#8221;
Sullivan went on to say that the United States was prepared to &#8220;find cargoes of liquefied natural gas elsewhere in the world&#8221; and make sure that those got redirected to Europe in the event that Putin chose to &#8220;turn down&#8221; the amount of energy that Russia was supplying to Europe.&#8221;
&#8220;But you do concede we are no longer energy independent, Jake? And we were before,&#8221; MacCallum pressed again.
Sullivan appeared to be caught off guard by the question, pausing briefly before he skipped over it completely and pivoted instead to explain that the United States planned to be leader in <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/sound-familiar-dem-governor-running-president-james-barrett/">transitioning to clean energy</a>.
&#8220;What I would say is that the United States is investing massively in being a leader in energy transition in which, yes, for now, we continue to use fossil fuels but over the course of years and decades, we become a clean energy superpower, because that ultimately is not just where the jobs are. It’s where the strategic advantage will lie, because we can’t just look at next year or the year after,&#8221; Sullivan said. &#8220;That’s not what China is doing. We have to look out ten, 20, 30 years and over those years, President Biden’s investments and his visions for how to make the United States the world’s clean energy superpower, that’s what’s going to put us in the best strategic position alongside democratic like-minded allies and partners.&#8221;
MacCallum was quick to point out the fact that Russia and China might see that answer as a green light to go ahead with whatever they had planned, adding, &#8220;Some might say that Russia and China would look at that answer and feel that they are in a pretty good position. They came out and said you know we have a deep friendship, we have an unshakable alliance now, the two of us are in lockstep. What’s the White House reaction to that statement from them on Friday?&#8221;
Sullivan pushed back on MacCallum, arguing that Russian President Vladimir Putin and Chinese President Xi Jinping had not actually used the word &#8220;alliance.&#8221;
&#8220;They used some other phrases, but did not actually go so far as to call themselves allies,&#8221; he said.
&#8220;Let me just put this up on the screen for you,&#8221; MacCallum replied. &#8220;It says, &#8216;a friendship between these two states has no limits, there are no forbidden areas of cooperation&#8217; and they also suggested China would have Russia&#8217;s back on their decisions with regard to Ukraine and the same would be true for Russia of China’s decisions with regard to Taiwan. That sounds like an alliance.&#8221;

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Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said that President Joe Biden could take three immediate steps that would turn the United States&#8217; energy policy around and also impact the markets &#8220;in a good way.&#8221;
<a href="https://dailywire.com/news/mike-pompeo-there-is-one-primary-reason-that-putin-is-acting-aggressive-during-biden-admin/">Pompeo</a> joined Fox News host Martha MacCallum on Tuesday&#8217;s broadcast of &#8220;The Story,&#8221; and he argued that Biden could put pressure on Russian President <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/blood-in-the-water-kayleigh-mcenany-flames-biden-for-letting-shark-putin-sense-weakness/">Vladimir Putin</a> — who, according to a New York Times op-ed, appears to be attempting to usurp American influence with European allies.
&#8220;I want to read for you a quote from a New York Times opinion piece by Fiona Hill. It says that &#8216;Putin wants to evict the United States from Europe,'&#8221; MacCallum said. &#8220;Good-bye America, don’t let the door hit you on the way out. What do you think, sir?&#8221;
&#8220;Martha, thanks for having me on. &#8230; It’s worth noting the U.S. stock market has taken a big hit in that time period as well. American leadership matters. That’s why President Trump and I had a model for deterrence to prevent precisely these kinds of moments. You don’t want to be putting your troops on alert and threatening once the adversary already has his front foot forward,&#8221; <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/pompeo-bidens-diplomatic-boycott-of-winter-olympics-does-not-go-far-enough/">Pompeo</a> replied.
He went on to say that if Biden had handled the withdrawal from Afghanistan differently — or had responded differently to the Russian ransomware attack that shut down the Colonial Pipeline — America&#8217;s credibility might not have taken such a hit in the global arena.
&#8220;America’s credibility in the world matters, whether it was in the debacle in our departure from Afghanistan, or it was President Putin rolling President Biden at the summit after Russians had attacked the Colonial Pipeline and shut it down, when we did nothing. Weakness begets confrontation,&#8221; Pompeo continued. &#8220;And I&#8217;m afraid that’s what Vladimir Putin has seen, I think he thinks he&#8217;s still seeing it. I hope this administration will begin to do the things one does to make sure that your friends and allies know that you’ll be with them. There is no one asking for American troops in Ukraine. I haven&#8217;t heard anybody make that demand. What they’re asking for is for the United States to live up to its commitments. This matters to the people in Nevada, Kansas, Nebraska, all across America.&#8221;
&#8220;We’ll see instability in Europe drive inflation further upward,&#8221; Pompeo added. &#8220;One last thought: When you take your eye off the ball in foreign policy, when you put Secretary Kerry and climate change at the top of your foreign policy agenda, I think you see the hard power actors like Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin say, &#8216;Well, that&#8217;s all fantastic. You all want to reduce carbon footprint as a matter of national security. We have a different vision for how to execute and deliver on our objectives and use our power.&#8221;
MacCallum pointed back to Biden&#8217;s claim that &#8220;America is back, the Trans-Atlantic alliance is back&#8221; — and asked Pompeo whether that was really true.
&#8220;It certainly exists, but for someone to suggest from the State Department podium that there are not cracks and different views, it&#8217;s not real, it&#8217;s fantasy,&#8221; Pompeo replied.
&#8220;The Germans have been incredibly feckless here. We need an ambassador there that is prepared to defend America’s interest and convince the German government to do the right thing not only for Ukraine and Europe but for Germany as well. They’ll suffer under this threat for decades to come. When you shut down your energy systems and say we’re going to rely on Russia, I’m sure that Vladimir Putin and his successor too, will see this risk. It’s outrageous for the Germans to not let equipment move across the country. The United States needs to demonstrate its leadership in the way that President Biden said he would.&#8221;
Pompeo noted that just such a situation was what former President Donald Trump&#8217;s administration had been preparing for when they called for more resources to be put into NATO.
MacCallum posed one last question, asking, &#8220;What difference would it make if the president said, you know what, we’re going to lease fracking lands because of this situation going with Russia. We’re going to open up the Keystone Pipeline for now because we need to do that. What would the impact be?&#8221;
&#8220;It would be enormous on global energy prices,&#8221; Pompeo&#8217;s response was immediate. &#8220;The world energy markets would respond in a good way. It would be a good thing, it would put pressure on the Germans as well. It would be a good. If he would add to that, Martha, a willingness to say we’re not going to let the Nord Stream 2 pipeline be built, you would have a trifecta with enormous import.&#8221;
&#8220;You’d see an overnight impact on the markets and geopolitically as well down the road,&#8221; MacCallum agreed.

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Wisconsin Congressman Mike Gallagher (R) warned on Tuesday that the situation between Russia and Ukraine will get “much worse.”
Gallagher, who serves on the House Armed Services Committee, <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-TPQ5KrOYQ&amp;t=17s">joined</a> Fox News’ Martha MacCallum in an interview to discuss the ongoing threat of a Russian invasion of Ukraine. Gallagher also slammed President Joe Biden and Secretary of State Antony Blinken for failing Ukraine on foreign policy. 
“This administration has delayed in providing assistance to Ukraine, it has projected indecisiveness internationally, and now they&#8217;re reviving another bad Obama-era idea, which is this so-called &#8216;hashtag diplomacy&#8217;,” the congressman accused. “You have the Secretary of State tweeting, &#8216;I #stand with Ukraine&#8217; while at the same time, the President is effectively greenlighting a minor incursion into Ukraine from the Russians. So I fear all of this adds up to a very permissive environment for Vladimir Putin. And the situation is about to get much worse.&#8221;
Last week, Biden suggested that the U.S. would not respond to a “minor incursion” from Russia – remarks that White House staff had to <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/white-house-has-to-issue-statement-cleaning-up-bidens-disastrous-remarks-on-russia-ukraine">clean up</a> for the president. “It’s one thing if it’s a minor incursion and we end up having to fight about what to do and not do,” Biden told reporters on Wednesday. “But if they actually do what they’re capable of doing with the forces amassed on the border, it is going to be a disaster for Russia if they further invade Ukraine.”
On Monday, Biden put 8,500 U.S. troops on “<a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-biden-puts-8500-troops-on-heightened-alert-to-prepare-to-be-deployed-to-eastern-europe">heightened alert</a>” amid Russia’s potential invasion of Ukraine. That move came just a day after Biden <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-biden-admin-orders-families-of-all-u-s-personnel-at-embassy-in-ukraine-to-leave-report-says">ordered</a> families of U.S. personnel at the embassy in Kyiv to leave the country, The Daily Wire reported. 
“The security conditions, particularly along Ukraine’s borders, in Russia-occupied Crimea, and in Russia-controlled eastern Ukraine, are unpredictable and can deteriorate with little notice. Demonstrations, which have turned violent at times, regularly occur throughout Ukraine, including in Kyiv,” the State Department <a href="https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-biden-admin-orders-families-of-all-u-s-personnel-at-embassy-in-ukraine-to-leave-report-says">said</a>. “Do not travel to Ukraine due to the increased threats of Russian military action and COVID-19. Exercise increased caution in Ukraine due to crime and civil unrest. Some areas have increased risk.”
Gallagher told MacCallum that America must pursue a strong stance against Russian aggression. “Peace through strength works,” he commented. “When America instead projects weakness and not strength, we open up a vacuum.” 
Gallagher didn’t end his criticisms for the Biden administration with its handling of Russian aggression. He went on to mention other foreign policy problems facing America. 
“It’s not just Ukraine we’re talking about,” he said. “We’re talking about a looming crisis over Taiwan. Of course General Secretary Xi Jinping is sitting there right now thinking, ‘You know what, given how weak America looks, I could probably get away with an invasion of Taiwan. If the worst I’m going to suffer is a mean hashtag from Jen Psaki, I’m going to go for it.’”

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Rep. Jim Jordan (R-OH) said Tuesday that he&#8217;d like to meet the 29% of Americans who believe, according to a recent poll, that the United States was heading in the right direction under President Joe Biden&#8217;s leadership.
Jordan joined Fox News host Martha MacCallum to discuss the <a href="https://video.foxnews.com/v/6283442817001#sp=show-clips">state of the economy</a> and the dramatic inflation that is set to make upcoming <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/bidens-inflation-farm-bureau-says-thanksgiving-dinner-will-cost-14-more-this-year/">Thanksgiving gatherings</a> — and the entire holiday season — more expensive for all Americans.
MacCallum introduced Jordan just as she wrapped up an interview with a small-business owner who said that, in addition to paying the higher prices this year, he had been ordered his Thanksgiving turkeys in April to ensure that they would be available for his customers when they came in to buy their supplies.
&#8220;When you listen to this hard-working business owner, and you look at the increase in prices for Thanksgiving and all of this and what families are going through right now, what goes through your mind?&#8221; MacCallum asked Jordan.
&#8220;In Joe Biden’s America, everything costs more. You want a home, costs more. Rent an apartment, costs more. Gas in your car costs more. Thanksgiving Turkey, Christmas presents. Everything costs more,&#8221; Jordan replied, going on to say that inflation was at a 31-year high.
&#8220;The Democrats’ economic plan is the dumbest in history. Lockdown the economy. Spend like crazy. Pay people not to work. And then for everyone who is working, oh, they’re getting ready to raise your taxes,&#8221; he continued referencing an <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/meet-the-press/biden-s-job-rating-sinks-42-percent-nbc-news-poll-n1282781">NBC poll</a> published on October 31. &#8220;Americans get it. And that’s why 71% of the country — unfortunately it’s a tough situation — but 71% of the country understands that we’re on the wrong track. The truth is, I’d like to meet the 29% that think we’re on the right track &#8230; Everyone knows we’re not. It’s driven by the ridiculous policies of America’s left that now control the Democratic Party.&#8221;
&#8220;It’s no surprise that the president disagrees with you on that,&#8221; MacCallum commented, rolling tape of Biden&#8217;s comments on inflation and supply issues.
&#8220;So all of these concerns a few weeks ago, there wouldn’t be ample food for Thanksgiving, so many people talked about that, understandably. But families can rest easy. Grocery stores are well-stocked with everything else you need for Thanksgiving. The major retailers have confirmed that their shelves will be well-stocked in stores this holiday season,&#8221; Biden said.
&#8220;He says it’s going to be okay, Jim,&#8221; MacCallum prompted.
&#8220;Well, Martha, when you have the spectacle of the President of the United States going out and saying — trumpeting the fact that there’s merchandise to purchase in the stores, my whole life there’s always been stuff to buy in stores and retail outlets. That is crazy. So that’s how ridiculous it’s gotten when you have to brag about the fact there are things to actually buy. He’s not highlighting the fact that we have record inflation,&#8221; Jordan continued.
Jordan then pivoted to address Biden&#8217;s agenda, noting that the president had promised his <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/top-democrat-economist-warns-of-biden-inflation-hard-to-put-out-fire-without-doing-a-lot-of-damage/">Build Back Better</a> plan would help to ease inflation.
&#8220;There is not a rational, sane person on the planet who believes that statement. For the President of the United States to make that statement and turn around a few weeks later and brag that there’s actually things to buy? For goodness sake, drive by any car dealership in this country. I’ve never seen it where the car dealership doesn’t have cars on the lot.  This is Joe Biden’s America,&#8221; he added.
Jordan went on to address the skyrocketing gas prices, blaming the Biden administration for shutting down the <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/keystone-pipeline-dead-killed-by-biden-thousands-of-jobs-lost/">Keystone XL pipeline</a> and hampering domestic production to the point that the United States is no longer a net exporter of oil and natural gas.
&#8220;This is ridiculous and the American people see through the crazy statements made by unfortunately the president of our country,&#8221; he said.

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American Conservative Union chairman Matt Schlapp predicted bad news for the Democratic Party going into the 2022 midterm elections.
<a href="https://dailywire.com/news/cpac-unloads-on-hyatt-hotels-for-allegedly-lying-about-stage-debacle-you-recruited-us-helped-build-stage/">Schlapp</a> joined former Priorities USA political director Kristal Knight and guest host Martha MacCallum for Tuesday&#8217;s broadcast of &#8220;The Faulkner Focus&#8221; on Fox News, and the three responded to reports the President Joe Biden has indicated he plans to run for reelection in 2024.
MacCallum began by noting that some appeared to be skeptical of a <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/joe-biden-says-he-plans-to-run-for-re-election-in-2024/">second Biden run</a> — in part because of poll numbers that have continued to decline and in part because, as the oldest president on record, Biden would be 82 by the time his re-election campaign even began.
MacCallum then went to a tape of fellow Fox News host Dana Perino, who summed up the situation on an earlier broadcast.
&#8220;Why would they try to reassure people he would run again? Because if they did not say that, immediately he is a lame duck. Immediately. And we’re three years from a primary,&#8221; Perino explained. &#8220;I think they have to say he is running because the alternative to them right now is really, really bad. You don’t want to be a lame duck.&#8221;
&#8220;Is that the reason, Kristal?&#8221; MacCallum turned the question to Knight. &#8220;You are so early into this term you don’t want to be telling people he has already decided he is not going to run.&#8221;
&#8220;Absolutely. It is a little unusual that we are talking about 2024 and it is still 2021,&#8221; Knight replied. &#8220;We should expect every incumbent president to run for reelection. He has gotten the Build Back Better plan through Congress headed to the Senate and we don’t know what the 2022 mid-term elections look like. If the Democrats are strong we should expect the president to run stronger in 2024.&#8221;
Before turning to Schlapp, MacCallum noted that a number of <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/time-to-pass-the-torch-senate-democrat-elected-during-vietnam-war-says-he-wont-seek-re-election/">Democrats</a> — some with plum positions on key committees — had either announced their <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/pelosi-on-her-heels-two-more-democrats-call-it-quits-ahead-of-2022-midterms/">retirement</a> or said that they were not planning to seek reelection in the 2022 midterm elections. That same trend, she pointed out, was seen among Republicans in the months leading up to Democrats winning back control of Congress.
&#8220;What do you read into that?&#8221; she asked Schlapp.
&#8220;Everyone in this town knows the Democrats won’t have the majority in the House of Representatives after next year’s elections. That’s a pretty foregone conclusion,&#8221; Schlapp replied, saying that even prior to 2022 the Democratic Party&#8217;s hold on the House was slim.
&#8220;Here is the thing that’s amazing. Joe Biden’s numbers are terrible. Most of these polls — they tend to grade on the curve for the Democrat — his numbers are historic lows,&#8221; Schlapp continued, adding that Democrats had already seen a wave of losses in places like <a href="https://dailywire.com/news/breaking-republican-glenn-youngkin-wins-governors-race-in-virginia-experts-project/">Virginia</a>, Seattle, Minneapolis. &#8220;It was defeat of CRT, defeat of defund the cops &#8230; All over from sea to sea the Democrats with this socialism and extremism were rejected. I have never seen a national political party self-destruct so quickly.&#8221;
&#8220;It will be interesting to see if they try to turn the ship a little bit towards a more moderate take in order to maintain and hang on to some of those seats in places where they are likely to lose them,&#8221; MacCallum agreed.

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