‘You’re whiter than I am. You’ve got blue eyes,” said Fox News Channel’s Tucker Carlson to Univision’s/Fusion’s Jorge Ramos on Wednesday. “So I mean, I don’t know exactly what you mean by white, or Latino.”
Carlson asked Ramos for a coherent definition of “Latino,” describing his guest as a “blue-eyed rich Mexican.” Ramos defined “Latino” as a person from “Latin America” who “[tends] to speak more Spanish at home than others.”
Ramos regularly frames resistance to illegal immigration as a function of racism, implying that those he describes as Latinos and Hispanics constitute a race.
Carlson noted his guest’s racial phenotype after Ramos seemed to imply that Latinos are definitionally non-white. He asked Ramos to elaborate on comments the Univision/Fusion anchor recently made in which he seemed to portray ethnic Latino nationalism as in conflict with American nationalism.
Weeks ago, Ramos pushed what the Media Research Center’s Jorge Bonilla described as “racially-driven demagoguery.” He said the following in Spanish (emphases Bonilla’s):
“I am an immigrant, just like many of you. I am a proud Latino immigrant here in the United States. My name is Jorge Ramos, and I work at Univision and at the Fusion network. And you know exactly what is going on here in the United States. There are many people who do not want us to be here, and who want to create a wall in order to separate us. But you know what? This is also our country. Let me repeat this: OUR country, not theirs. It is our country. And we are not going to leave. We are nearly 60 million Latinos in the United States. And thanks to US, the United States eats, grows and, as we’ve seen today, sings and dances. So when they attack us, we already know what we are going to do. We are not going to sit down. We will not shut up. And we will not leave. That is what we are going to do.”
Ramos claimed that President Donald Trump, his administration, and many of his supporters are animated by white racial nationalism:
“They think it is their country, that it is a white country, and they are absolutely wrong. This is not a white country. This is not their country. It is ours.”
Whites in America will become a minority by 2044, predicted Ramos: “[America will become] a minority-majority country… Latinos, Asians, African-Americans. It is our country.”
Ramos regularly advocates on behalf of Spanish-speaking foreigners illegally residing in the homeland. In so doing, he conflates lawful and unlawful immigration while framing resistance to the status quo of both as driven by racial animus.
Ramos describes foreigners illegally residing in the U.S. as “undocumented immigrants.”
Watch the segment below.
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