In this episode, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with behavioral researcher and bestselling author Vanessa Van Edwards to unpack the secret language of nonverbal communication. From the handshake that builds trust to the subtle cues that sabotage careers, they explore how posture, eye contact, tone, and gesture shape perception—often before a single word is spoken. Drawing on Vanessa’s research and her own journey as a “recovering awkward person” turned master communicator, the conversation spans job interviews, power dynamics, mirroring, charisma, and how to read a room at its most fundamental level. Learn why neck ratios matter, vocal fry backfires, and presence begins long before you speak.

This episode was filmed on July 16th, 2025

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For Vanessa Van Edwards

On X https://x.com/vvanedwards?lang=en

The Science of People website https://www.scienceofpeople.com/

Read “Cues: Master the Secret Language of Charismatic Communication” https://a.co/d/2ZODCds

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