In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Jordan Peterson and Rob Henderson discuss the necessity of shame, the issue of consent in unquestionable promiscuity, the consequences of fatherlessness, the stark predictability of success via IQ, and the surprising revelation of the archetypal “evil” father.

Rob Henderson is the author of "Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family, and Social Class." He grew up in foster homes in Los Angeles and in the rural town of Red Bluff, California. He enlisted in the U.S. Air Force at the age of seventeen. Following his enlistment, he attended Yale on the G.I. Bill and was subsequently awarded the Gates Cambridge Scholarship to study at the University of Cambridge, where he obtained a PhD in psychology in 2022. His writing has appeared in the Wall Street Journal and Quillette, among other outlets, and his Substack newsletter is sent each week to more than 50,000 subscribers.