In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Garry Nolan explore the stranger-than-fiction world of UAPs. They discuss the theatrical absurdity of “cow abductions,” early credible sightings of anomalous craft, and the possibility that Earth’s DNA has extraterrestrial origins. Nolan weighs in on the spy balloon incident as a wake-up call for U.S. defense, and pushes back on the idea that UAP discourse is a distraction—arguing instead that it’s driving policy and serious research.

This episode was filmed on July 7th, 2025

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