In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Celina Caesar-Chavannes discuss the aftermath of leaving Trudeau’s administration, rebuilding her life, and how she wrote her gripping memoir.

Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a dynamic leader with an impressive track record across business, politics, and advocacy. Currently completing her PhD in Neuroscience, Celina’s research focuses on how cognitive and emotional processes intersect to influence leadership, decision-making, and self-actualization. She translates these insights into practical strategies for Cognitive Optimized Inclusive Leadership (COIL) - a program she designed to help individuals and organizations harness the power of their brain for authentic leadership, fostering deeper self-awareness, well-being, and transformation. Her leadership programs emphasize the importance of integrating neuroscience into leadership development to build more inclusive, empathetic, and effective leaders. 


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Hour 1

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

Sessions | Celina Caesar-Chavannes [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with CEO of the Justice Defense Fund, Laila Mickelwait. They discuss her ongoing efforts against the largest adult content platform in the world, their shady dealings with credit card companies, top-down refusal of proper moderation, potential safeguards which would benefit performers, and how anonymity fuels psychopathy on the internet.

Laila Mickelwait is the founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund and the founder of the global #Traffickinghub movement supported by millions around the world. She has been combating the crime of sex trafficking since 2006 and is a leading expert in the field. The Traffickinghub movement that Laila continues to lead is a decentralized global effort to hold Pornhub accountable for enabling and profiting from child abuse, sex trafficking, rape, and the criminal exploitation of countless victims. Traffickinghub has earned hundreds of millions of views on social media, and the petition to shut down Pornhub has been signed by over 2.3 million people from every country in the world. 600 organizations have participated in the effort and the impact of the movement has been covered globally in thousands of media pieces.

This episode was recorded on August 20th, 2024


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Learn more about Laila’s organization the Justice Defense Fund at https://justicedefensefund.org/?_sm_vck=06SNtWWf7B5kMPL0PtfmB07kWH35SJFqs6fR4Rkn4f6fWmLkRNZj 

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One Woman’s War on P*rnhub | Laila Mickelwait

One Woman’s War on P*rnhub | Laila Mickelwait [Ad Free]

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Laila Mickelwait discuss her personal experiences studying some of the darkest material on the internet, the unfortunate targeting of young men from p*rn websites, the sex-trafficking trade, and the use of social media to fight it head on.

Laila Mickelwait is the founder and CEO of the Justice Defense Fund and the founder of the global #Traffickinghub movement supported by millions around the world. She has been combating the crime of sex trafficking since 2006 and is a leading expert in the field. The Traffickinghub movement that Laila continues to lead is a decentralized global effort to hold Pornhub accountable for enabling and profiting from child abuse, sex trafficking, rape, and the criminal exploitation of countless victims. Traffickinghub has earned hundreds of millions of views on social media, and the petition to shut down Pornhub has been signed by over 2.3 million people from every country in the world. 600 organizations have participated in the effort and the impact of the movement has been covered globally in thousands of media pieces.

This episode was recorded on August 20th, 2024


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For Laila Mickewait:

Purchase Laila’s book “Takedown: Inside The Fight to Shut Down Pornhub for Child Abuse, Rape and Trafficking” at Takedownbook.com 100% of author proceeds are donated to the Justice Defense Fund to support the cause https://Takedownbook.com  

Learn more about Laila’s organization the Justice Defense Fund at https://justicedefensefund.org/?_sm_vck=06SNtWWf7B5kMPL0PtfmB07kWH35SJFqs6fR4Rkn4f6fWmLkRNZj 

Sign the Traffickinghub petition at https://traffickinghubpetition.com/

On X https://x.com/lailamickelwait 

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/lailamickelwait/?hl=en 

Sessions | Laila Mickelwait [DW+ Exclusive]

Jordan Peterson sits down with theorist and researcher Mark Changizi. They discuss the biological reasons for mass hysteria on the societal level, why we evolved to have color vision, and how we understand and interpret the patterns of the natural world.

Mark Changizi is a theorist aiming to grasp the ultimate foundations underlying why we think, feel, and see as we do. He attended the University of Virginia for a degree in physics and mathematics, and to the University of Maryland for a PhD in math. In 2002, he won a prestigious Sloan-Swartz Fellowship in Theoretical Neurobiology at Caltech, and in 2007, he became an assistant professor in the Department of Cognitive Science at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. In 2010, he took the post of Director of Human Cognition at a new research institute called 2ai Labs and also co-founded VINO Optics, which builds proprietary vein-enhancing glasses for medical personnel. He consults out of his Human Factory Lab.

He curated an exhibition and co-authored a (fourth) book — “On the Origin of Art” (2016) by Steven Pinker, Geoffrey Miller, Brian Boyd, and Mark Changizi — at MONA museum in Tasmania in 2016, illustrating his “nature-harnessing” theory on the origins of art and language.

This episode was filmed on November 22, 2024


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Angry and Red: Color as Emotion | Mark Changizi

Jordan Peterson sits down with theorist and researcher Mark Changizi. They discuss the biological reasons for mass hysteria on the societal level, why we evolved to have color vision, and how we understand and interpret the patterns of the natural world.

Mark Changizi is a theorist aiming to grasp the ultimate foundations underlying why we think, feel, and see as we do. He attended the University of Virginia for a degree in physics and mathematics, and to the University of Maryland for a PhD in math. In 2002, he won a prestigious Sloan-Swartz Fellowship in Theoretical Neurobiology at Caltech, and in 2007, he became an assistant professor in the Department of Cognitive Science at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute. In 2010, he took the post of Director of Human Cognition at a new research institute called 2ai Labs and also co-founded VINO Optics, which builds proprietary vein-enhancing glasses for medical personnel. He consults out of his Human Factory Lab.

He curated an exhibition and co-authored a (fourth) book — “On the Origin of Art” (2016) by Steven Pinker, Geoffrey Miller, Brian Boyd, and Mark Changizi — at MONA museum in Tasmania in 2016, illustrating his “nature-harnessing” theory on the origins of art and language.

This episode was filmed on November 22, 2024


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Angry and Red: Color as Emotion | Mark Changizi [Ad Free]

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Mark Changizi discuss his cancellation by the mainstream media machine (still ongoing), why he and others have been punished for debunking the mass hysteria of the COVID pandemic, how he adapts cutting-edge research into entrepreneurial ventures, and how to stay outside of the herd without getting eaten by the lions.


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Sessions | Mark Changizi [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with philosopher, professor, and lecturer Dr. Stephen Hicks. They discuss their collaboration through the Peterson Academy, the case for philosophy on the practical level,the evolution of human thought across intellectual movements and waves, the notion that we see reality through a story, and the danger of getting the story wrong.

Stephen Hicks’ writings have been translated into twenty languages, including Portuguese, Spanish, German, Korean, Persian, Serbo-Croatian, Polish, Swedish, Hindi, Russian, Ukrainian, Cantonese, French, Hebrew, Estonian, Urdu, Turkish, and Arabic. He has published in academic journals such as “Business Ethics Quarterly,” “Teaching Philosophy,” and “Review of Metaphysics,” as well as other publications such as “The Wall Street Journal” and “Cato Unbound.”

In 2010, he won his university’s Excellence in Teaching Award. He was Professor of Philosophy at Rockford University, Illinois; has been Visiting Professor of Business Ethics at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.; Visiting Professor at Jagiellonian University, Poland; Visiting Fellow at the Social Philosophy & Policy Center in Bowling Green, Ohio; Visiting Fellow at Harris Manchester College at Oxford University in England; Senior Fellow at The Objectivist Center in New York; and Visiting Professor at the University of Kasimir the Great, Poland. He received his Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from the University of Guelph, Canada, and his Ph.D. in philosophy from Indiana University, Bloomington, USA.

This episode was filmed on November 15th, 2024


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Reality and the Philosophical Framing of the Truth | Dr. Stephen Hicks

Reality and the Philosophical Framing of the Truth | Dr. Stephen Hicks [Ad Free]

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Dr. Stephen Hicks discuss the issue of power, how philosophy can devolve into subjectivist autobiography and justification of whims, the absurdity of using postmodernism — which questions reality itself — to make determinative political stances, and the $250,000 question: What is a university supposed to be?

Stephen Hicks’ writings have been translated into twenty languages, including Portuguese, Spanish, German, Korean, Persian, Serbo-Croatian, Polish, Swedish, Hindi, Russian, Ukrainian, Cantonese, French, Hebrew, Estonian, Urdu, Turkish, and Arabic. He has published in academic journals such as “Business Ethics Quarterly,” “Teaching Philosophy,” and “Review of Metaphysics,” as well as other publications such as “The Wall Street Journal” and “Cato Unbound.”

In 2010, he won his university’s Excellence in Teaching Award. He was Professor of Philosophy at Rockford University, Illinois; has been Visiting Professor of Business Ethics at Georgetown University in Washington, D.C.; Visiting Professor at Jagiellonian University, Poland; Visiting Fellow at the Social Philosophy & Policy Center in Bowling Green, Ohio; Visiting Fellow at Harris Manchester College at Oxford University in England; Senior Fellow at The Objectivist Center in New York; and Visiting Professor at the University of Kasimir the Great, Poland. He received his Bachelor’s and Master’s degrees from the University of Guelph, Canada, and his Ph.D. in philosophy from Indiana University, Bloomington, USA.

This episode was filmed on November 15th, 2024


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Sessions | Stephen Hicks [DW+ Exclusive]

Jordan Peterson sits down with Dave Rubin to take a retrospective look back on over a decade of “The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast.” They discuss going on tour together, how Dave supported Jordan through his worst days, how podcasting broke the mainstream media, the lessons learned across 500 episodes, the bright future following America’s vote for sanity, and how the adventure of our lives has only just begun. Here’s to the next 500 - onward and upward!

Dave Rubin is the host of The Rubin Report, a top-ranking talk show with over one billion views and millions of subscribers. The Rubin Report is recognized as one of the most influential spaces for uncensored conversations about politics, culture, comedy, current events, and more. Rubin began his career in New York City as a stand-up comedian. He continues to perform throughout the United States and Europe utilizing his voice to illuminate the absurdities of the culture’s polarized political landscape. He accompanied Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on an international speaking tour where they addressed hundreds of thousands of people across three continents. In an effort to combat big tech censorship, Rubin founded Locals.com, a subscription-based digital platform that empowers creators to be independent by giving them control over their content and data. Locals.com has amassed tens of millions of users since its inception in 2019. Rubin sold the platform to Rumble in 2021 which went public in 2022. Dave is a two-time New York Times best-selling author.

This episode was filmed on November 14th, 2024

Episode 500: What a Long Strange Trip it's Been | Dave Rubin

Jordan Peterson sits down with Dave Rubin to take a retrospective look back on over a decade of “The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast.” They discuss going on tour together, how Dave supported Jordan through his worst days, how podcasting broke the mainstream media, the lessons learned across 500 episodes, the bright future following America’s vote for sanity, and how the adventure of our lives has only just begun. Here’s to the next 500 - onward and upward!

Dave Rubin is the host of The Rubin Report, a top-ranking talk show with over one billion views and millions of subscribers. The Rubin Report is recognized as one of the most influential spaces for uncensored conversations about politics, culture, comedy, current events, and more. Rubin began his career in New York City as a stand-up comedian. He continues to perform throughout the United States and Europe utilizing his voice to illuminate the absurdities of the culture’s polarized political landscape. He accompanied Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on an international speaking tour where they addressed hundreds of thousands of people across three continents. In an effort to combat big tech censorship, Rubin founded Locals.com, a subscription-based digital platform that empowers creators to be independent by giving them control over their content and data. Locals.com has amassed tens of millions of users since its inception in 2019. Rubin sold the platform to Rumble in 2021 which went public in 2022. Dave is a two-time New York Times best-selling author.

This episode was filmed on November 14th, 2024



Episode 500: What a Long Strange Trip it's Been | Dave Rubin [Ad Free]

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Davie Rubin discuss the pros and cons of free speech on the internet, ways to mitigate against bad actors without censorship, the positive outlook for the future of America following Trump’s win - for Republicans, Democrats, and everyone else - and what the hell is going on in Canada by comparison.

Dave Rubin is the host of The Rubin Report, a top-ranking talk show with over one billion views and millions of subscribers. The Rubin Report is recognized as one of the most influential spaces for uncensored conversations about politics, culture, comedy, current events, and more. Rubin began his career in New York City as a stand-up comedian. He continues to perform throughout the United States and Europe utilizing his voice to illuminate the absurdities of the culture’s polarized political landscape. He accompanied Dr. Jordan B. Peterson on an international speaking tour where they addressed hundreds of thousands of people across three continents. In an effort to combat big tech censorship, Rubin founded Locals.com, a subscription-based digital platform that empowers creators to be independent by giving them control over their content and data. Locals.com has amassed tens of millions of users since its inception in 2019. Rubin sold the platform to Rumble in 2021 which went public in 2022. Dave is a two-time New York Times best-selling author.


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“The Rubin Report” on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJdKr0Bgd_5saZYqLCa9mng 

Sessions | Dave Rubin [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with the senior pastor of the Harvest Christian Fellowship, Greg Laurie. They discuss the true story behind the hit film “The Jesus Revolution,” Laurie’s relationship with hippie-preacher and counter-culture icon Lonnie Frisbee, how he found faith in the most unlikely of places, and the past 50 years of building his world-renowned ministry.

Greg Laurie is the senior pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship with campuses in California and Hawaii. He began his pastoral ministry at the age of 19 by leading a Bible study of 30 people. Since then, God has transformed that small group into a church of some 15,000 people. Today, Harvest is one of the largest churches in America and consistently ranks among the most influential churches in the country. 

In 1990, Laurie began holding large-scale public evangelistic events called Harvest Crusades. Since that time, more than 9.8 million people have participated in these events in person or online around the United States. In 2012, Laurie launched Harvest America, a nationwide event using the internet to simulcast live HD video to thousands of locations across the country. With an unprecedented 306,000 Americans in live attendance, Harvest America ranks among the largest presentations of the gospel in United States history. Harvest Crusades have also been held internationally in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. More importantly, some 531,889 people have made professions of faith through these outreaches.

In 2020 and in partnership with Kingdom Story Company, Laurie premiered his first-ever cinematic crusade, “A Rush of Hope,” viewed by over 2 million people in its opening weekend. Laurie is the featured speaker of the nationally syndicated radio program, A New Beginning, which is broadcast on more than 1,200 radio outlets around the world. Laurie’s weekly television program, “Harvest + Greg Laurie,” is carried on major TV networks such as Lifetime, Fox Business, Newsmax, Daystar, KCAL 9 Los Angeles, and the Trinity Broadcasting Network.

This episode was filmed on November 4th, 2024


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The Jesus Revolution: The Real Thing | Greg Laurie [Ad Free]

The Jesus Revolution: The Real Thing | Greg Laurie

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Greg Laurie discuss the events of Greg’s life and ministry from the 1970s to the present, the ability of large language models to map symbolism through the statistical proclivity to co-occur, the power of unified prayer, and the deeper utility of communal worship.

Greg Laurie is the senior pastor of Harvest Christian Fellowship with campuses in California and Hawaii. He began his pastoral ministry at the age of 19 by leading a Bible study of 30 people. Since then, God has transformed that small group into a church of some 15,000 people. Today, Harvest is one of the largest churches in America and consistently ranks among the most influential churches in the country. 

In 1990, Laurie began holding large-scale public evangelistic events called Harvest Crusades. Since that time, more than 9.8 million people have participated in these events in person or online around the United States. In 2012, Laurie launched Harvest America, a nationwide event using the internet to simulcast live HD video to thousands of locations across the country. With an unprecedented 306,000 Americans in live attendance, Harvest America ranks among the largest presentations of the gospel in United States history. 

Harvest Crusades have also been held internationally in Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. More importantly, some 531,889 people have made professions of faith through these outreaches.
In 2020 and in partnership with Kingdom Story Company, Laurie premiered his first-ever cinematic crusade, “A Rush of Hope,” viewed by over 2 million people in its opening weekend. Laurie is the featured speaker of the nationally syndicated radio program, A New Beginning, which is broadcast on more than 1,200 radio outlets around the world. Laurie’s weekly television program, “Harvest + Greg Laurie,” is carried on major TV networks such as Lifetime, Fox Business, Newsmax, Daystar, KCAL 9 Los Angeles, and the Trinity Broadcasting Network.

This episode was filmed on November 4th, 2024

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Sessions | Greg Laurie [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with politician and son of the previous president of Brazil, Eduardo Bolsonaro. They discuss his father’s story, near-death experience, election win, and why he cannot run in 2026. They also discuss the wave of censorship across South America and the West, Elon Musk’s fight with the Brazilian Supreme Court, and the true magnitude of independent media which has tyrants scared across the globe.

Eduardo Bolsonaro is a Brazilian politician, lawyer, and federal police officer. He is the third child of Jair Bolsonaro, the 38th president of Brazil. Since March 2022 he has been affiliated with the Liberal Party. Bolsonaro is also the most voted lawmaker in Brazil’s history with 1.8 million votes, securing his second term as Federal Deputy in the Chamber of Deputies. In this, he chairs the International Affairs and National Defense Committee. Bolsonaro is also one of many signatories (including Javier Milei and Giorgia Meloni) of the Madrid Charter, which reaffirms conservative allyship and draws a hard line between liberals and radical leftists.

This episode was filmed on November 1st, 2024


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Is Brazil on Path to Become Cuba? | Eduardo Bolsonaro

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with entrepreneur, author, and prior member of Justin Trudeau’s administration, Celina Caesar-Chavannes. They discuss her time in the Canadian government, the Prime Minister’s modus operandi, the use of tokenism over substantive contribution, and why she ultimately decided to resign.

Celina Caesar-Chavannes is a dynamic leader with an impressive track record across business, politics, and advocacy. Currently completing her PhD in Neuroscience, Celina’s research focuses on how cognitive and emotional processes intersect to influence leadership, decision-making, and self-actualization. She translates these insights into practical strategies for Cognitive Optimized Inclusive Leadership (COIL) - a program she designed to help individuals and organizations harness the power of their brain for authentic leadership, fostering deeper self-awareness, well-being, and transformation. Her leadership programs emphasize the importance of integrating neuroscience into leadership development to build more inclusive, empathetic, and effective leaders. 

This episode was filmed on October 8th, 2024


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For Celina Caesar-Chavannes:

On X https://x.com/iamcelinacc?lang=en 

“Can You Hear Me Now?: How I Found My Voice and Learned to Live with Passion and Purpose” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Can-You-Hear-Me-Now/dp/0735279594 

The Brutal Shadow of Equity In Canada | Celina Caesar-Chavannes

The Brutal Shadow of Equity In Canada | Celina Caesar-Chavannes [Ad Free]

Join intellectual phenomenon Dr. Jordan Peterson for enlightening discourse that will change the way you think. This podcast breaks down the dichotomy of life through interviews and lectures that explain how individuals and culture are shaped by values, music, religion, and beyond. It will give you a new perspective and a modern understanding of your creativity, competence, and personality.

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