In this exclusive interview, Rav Arora and Dr. Peterson discuss problems with ideology, atheism, the church, systemic racism, victimhood, the death of religion, psychedelics, meaning, religious practice, and personal responsibility.

Rav is an independent journalist based in Vancouver. He writes on a wide range of topics including violent crime, MDMA therapy, identity politics, and vaccine mandates.

Chapters

[00:00] Intro
[02:00] Rav's Foreword
[05:45] Religious vs. Political Ideology
[07:42] Crippled Religions
[09:40] Political vs. Religious Beliefs
[11:10] Ideology & Thinking
[11:47] How Ideology Blinds Us
[15:38] Externalizing Problems
[16:41] Other Faces of Evil
[21:44] Perils of Ideology
[21:59] Ignorance
[22:52] Systemic Racism
[25:39] White Supremacy, Symbolism & the Patriarchy
[36:37] Microaggressive Hard Work
[38:22] Immigration & Culture
[40:44] Individual Responsibility
[41:21] Our Worst Crimes
[41:47] Income Inequality
[46:09] Young People & Values
[51:58] Meaning Without Religion
[56:43] The Immortality Key
[58:32] Death of Modern Religion
[01:08:05] The Church & Self-discipline
[01:08:35] Life Decisions
[01:09:52] Religious practice
[01:16:16] The Biblical Lectures
[01:17:46] Spiritual Structure
[01:18:50] Psychedelics & Mindfulness
[01:21:11] The Problem with Atheism
[01:24:30] Undermining Human Progress
[01:25:57] Meditation, Attention, & Thinking
[01:28:36] Music
[01:30:26] Victimhood
[01:37:29] Taking a Joke
[01:43:23] Playing Both Sides
[01:42:09] Victimhood
[01:48:35] Privilege
[01:58:58] Gratitude Despite Suffering
[02:09:11] Responding to Criticism
[02:19:23] Jordan's Influence

This episode was recorded on Saturday, March 27, 2021.

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

S4 E82: The Spiritual Void and the West with Rav Arora

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author and speaker Tor Nørretranders. They discuss the entropy of emotion, the nature of pointlessness, the over-civilization of societal structures, how relationships shape perception, and why play might be the antithesis to tyranny.

Tor Nørretranders is an independent author, thinker and speaker based in Denmark, serving an international audience. He has published over 30 books on topics ranging from society to human consciousness. 


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Tor Nørretranders:

The User Illusion:
https://www.amazon.com/User-Illusion-Cutting-Consciousness-Penguin/dp/0140230122

The Generous Man:
https://www.amazon.com/Generous-Man-Helping-Others-Sexiest/dp/B005SNMU4I

Wild food and agriculture:
https://madfeed.co/video/from-wild-to-tame-and-back-again/
https://madfeed.co/video/we-are-here-because-we-have-appetite/
https://madfeed.co/video/whos-got-the-guts/

Website https://www.tor.dk/

Article “We Are Waking Up” : https://www.tor.dk/2019/05/06/we-are-waking-up/


Hour 1

Dreams, Stories, Psychedelics & Conscious | Tor Nørretranders | EP 441

Dreams, Stories, Psychedelics & Conscious | Tor Nørretranders | EP 441[Member Exclusive]

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Tor Nørretranders walk through his biography, the life experiences that have shaped his understanding of science, and why he focuses on the nature of consciousness.

Tor Nørretranders is an independent author, thinker and speaker based in Denmark, serving an international audience. He has published over 30 books on topics ranging from society to human consciousness. 


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Tor Nørretranders:

The User Illusion:
https://www.amazon.com/User-Illusion-Cutting-Consciousness-Penguin/dp/0140230122

The Generous Man:
https://www.amazon.com/Generous-Man-Helping-Others-Sexiest/dp/B005SNMU4I

Wild food and agriculture:
https://madfeed.co/video/from-wild-to-tame-and-back-again/
https://madfeed.co/video/we-are-here-because-we-have-appetite/
https://madfeed.co/video/whos-got-the-guts/

Website https://www.tor.dk/

Article “We Are Waking Up” : https://www.tor.dk/2019/05/06/we-are-waking-up/

Sessions | Tor Nørretranders [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to discuss the recent suspension of his campaign, how he fought the traditional media’s best advances against him, who he is endorsing now, and the American values he seeks to defend going forward.

Vivek Ramaswamy is an entrepreneur, author, and political activist. Vivek has been making headlines since announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election, running on a platform in part to dismantle the expansive and corrupt bureaucracy that has seeped into nearly all facets of American government. Prior to this, Ramaswamy was the founder and CEO of the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences. Leaving in 2021, he published “Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam.” In 2022, he co-founded Strive Asset Management with Anson Frericks, which focuses on an alternative to the now-pushed ESG investment framework. That same year Ramaswamy published “Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence" 
and has since been deemed one of the “Intellectual Godfathers of the anti-woke movement.”


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Vivek Ramaswamy:

On X https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@vivek-2024 

Looking Back on the Campaign, and Forward for the Country | Vivek Ramaswamy [Member Exclusive]

Looking Back on the Campaign, and Forward for the Country | Vivek Ramaswamy

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Vivek Ramaswamy commence a rapid-fire interview, touching on core subjects from the campaign trail that truly matter for the future of the United States.

Vivek Ramaswamy is an entrepreneur, author, and political activist. Vivek has been making headlines since announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election, running on a platform in part to dismantle the expansive and corrupt bureaucracy that has seeped into nearly all facets of American government. Prior to this, Ramaswamy was the founder and CEO of the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences. Leaving in 2021, he published “Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam.” In 2022, he co-founded Strive Asset Management with Anson Frericks, which focuses on an alternative to the now-pushed ESG investment framework. That same year Ramaswamy published “Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence” and has since been deemed one of the “Intellectual Godfathers of the anti-woke movement.”


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Vivek Ramaswamy:

On X https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@vivek-2024 

Sessions | Vivek Ramaswamy [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with industry consultant, science activist, and past president of Greenpeace Canada (1971 to 1986), Dr. Patrick Moore. They discuss his time in Greenpeace, the historic timeline of global ice ages and climate change, the clear lies being peddled to promote alarmism, and how the woke left manipulates science (and scientists) to promote a falsely perceived and politically incentivized future catastrophe. 

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Patrick Moore:

On X https://twitter.com/ecosensenow?lang=en 

“Fake Invisible Catastrophes And Threats of Doom” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Fake-Invisible-Catastrophes-Threats-Doom-ebook/dp/B08T6FFY6S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fake+invisible+catastrophe&qid=1612915229&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 

Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers of Radical Alarmism | Dr. Patrick Moore [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with industry consultant, science activist, and past president of Greenpeace Canada (1971 to 1986), Dr. Patrick Moore. They discuss his time in Greenpeace, the historic timeline of global ice ages and climate change, the clear lies being peddled to promote alarmism, and how the woke left manipulates science (and scientists) to promote a falsely perceived and politically incentivized future catastrophe. 

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Patrick Moore:

On X https://twitter.com/ecosensenow?lang=en 

“Fake Invisible Catastrophes And Threats of Doom” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Fake-Invisible-Catastrophes-Threats-Doom-ebook/dp/B08T6FFY6S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fake+invisible+catastrophe&qid=1612915229&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 


Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers of Radical Alarmism | Dr. Patrick Moore

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Patrick Moore delve further into the realm of science manipulation, drawing on numerous proven stories such as the use of plastic by wild Albatross’ for digestion, and how bad actors use spin to monger fear.

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.

Sessions | Dr. Patrick Moore [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with writer, philosopher, and cognitive scientist Dr. Daniel Dennett. They discuss the concepts of aboutness, intention, and the highest good as they relate to the religious and secular worlds, the establishment of trust and ethics outside of transcendent presupposition, and the loss of academic freedom at the misapprehension of postmodernism.

Dr. Daniel Dennett is an American philosopher, writer, and cognitive scientist. He has published dozens of books, such as “Consciousness Explained" (1992), “Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life” (1996), and “Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena” (2007).


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Daniel Dennett:

On X https://twitter.com/danieldennett?lang=en 

The Problem with Counterfeit People (Article on AI, the Atlantic) https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/ 

Consciousness Explained (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Explained-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/0316180661 

I’ve Been Thinking (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Ive-Been-Thinking-Daniel-Dennett/dp/0393868052 

Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338 

Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett [Member Exclusive]

Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Daniel Dennett discuss his early dual interests in sculpting and philosophy, how art and engineering relate, the use and misuse of interlocutors in linguistic expression, what Penrose gets wrong about algorithmic consistency, the “good idea” that makes up the bedrock of postmodernism, and the unprecedented danger of “counterfeit people” in the wake of AI.

Dr. Daniel Dennett is an American philosopher, writer, and cognitive scientist. He has published dozens of books, such as “Consciousness Explained" (1992), “Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life” (1996), and “Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena” (2007).


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Daniel Dennett:

On X https://twitter.com/danieldennett?lang=en 

The Problem with Counterfeit People (Article on AI, the Atlantic) https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/ 

Consciousness Explained (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Explained-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/0316180661 

I’ve Been Thinking (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Ive-Been-Thinking-Daniel-Dennett/dp/0393868052 

Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338 

Sessions | Dr. Daniel Dennett [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with entrepreneur, U.S. representative, and 2024 presidential candidate Dean Phillips. They discuss his now-suspended presidential campaign, the monolithic opposition he faced getting platformed, the reality of President Joe Biden’s age, the core issues facing America right now, and the comparative pathologies of Republicans and Democrats respectively.

Dean Phillips is an American businessman and congressman, serving as the U.S. representative of Minnesota’s 3rd District since 2019. Phillips has started and run several companies over the years (Such as Talenti Gelato) and served as CEO of his family's liquor business, Phillips Distilling Co, for 12 years (2000-2012). Phillips ran as the only Democrat against Joe Biden in the 2024 election. On March 6th, 2024, he suspended his campaign.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dean Phillips:

On instagram https://www.instagram.com/repdeanphillips/?hl=en 

On X https://twitter.com/repdeanphillips?lang=en 

The 2024 Presidency, Joe Biden’s Age, Gigantism, & Facing Reality | Dean Phillips

The 2024 Presidency, Joe Biden’s Age, Gigantism, & Facing Reality | Dean Phillips [Member Exclusive]

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dean Phillips discuss the ongoing issues with the two party system, the ways in which republicans and democrats have been de-incentivized from interacting with one another, the warning we ignored from George Washington, and why Phillip’s has chosen not to run again.

Dean Phillips is an American businessman and congressman, serving as the U.S. representative of Minnesota’s 3rd District since 2019. Phillips has started and run several companies over the years (Such as Talenti Gelato, sold to Unilever for an undisclosed amount, worth 19 million as of 2023) and served as CEO of his family's liquor business, Phillips Distilling Co, for 12 years (2000-2012). Phillips ran as the only Democrat against Joe Biden in the 2024 election. On March 6th, 2024, he suspended his campaign.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dean Phillips:

On instagram https://www.instagram.com/repdeanphillips/?hl=en 

On X https://twitter.com/repdeanphillips?lang=en 


Sessions | Dean Phillips [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with psychiatrist, researcher, and philosopher Dr. Iain McGilchrist. They discuss right brain/left brain hemispheric specialization, the basis of delusion, “unknowing” as a necessary step toward wisdom, consciousness and the divine ground of being, and the imposition of mediocrity in the modern West.

Dr. Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, neuroscience researcher, philosopher and literary scholar. He is a Quondam Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, an Associate Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford, a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and former Consultant Psychiatrist and Clinical Director at the Bethlem Royal & Maudsley Hospital, London. He has been a Research Fellow in neuroimaging at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore and a Fellow of the Institute of Advanced Studies in Stellenbosch. He has published original articles and research papers in a wide range of publications on topics in literature, philosophy, medicine and psychiatry. He is the author of a number of books, but is best-known for The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World (Yale 2009). In November 2021 his two-volume work The Matter with Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions, and the Unmaking of the World was published by Perspectiva Press.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Iain McGilchrist:

Website https://channelmcgilchrist.com/ 

On X https://twitter.com/dr_mcgilchrist?lang=en 

The Matter With Things (Book) https://tinyurl.com/5d3cfns6

The Master and His Emissary (Book) https://tinyurl.com/3p4favfe

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