Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Jonathan Pageau discuss the depth of narrative found in the classic fairy tales, the loss of positively impactful narratives in the wake of woke culture, the potential utility of Ai as a means to prod new insights from historic and biblical texts, the cynicism of postmodernism, and the overall necessity to preserve foundational storytelling.

Jonathan Pageau is a French-Canadian liturgical artist and icon carver, known for his work featured in museums across the world. He carves Eastern Orthodox and other traditional images, and teaches an online carving class. He also runs a YouTube channel dedicated to the exploration of symbolism across history and religion.


- Links -

For Jonathan Pageau:

Help Kickstart The Symbolic World Press:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/symbolicworldpress/snow-white-and-the-widow-queen

The Symbolic World (Website)
https://www.thesymbolicworld.com/

Jonathan Pageau on YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@JonathanPageau 

Jonathan Pageau on Twitter https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 


Hour 1

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

Dream Analysis, AI & Fairy Tales | Jonathan Pageau

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Canadian lawyer Bruce Pardy and podcaster Konstantin Kisin. They discuss Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Bill C-63 (aka The Online Harms Act), what powers it gives to the government, what rights it strips from citizens, and why even Americans should be concerned.

Bruce Pardy is executive director of Rights Probe, a law and liberty thinktank, and professor of law at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. He is a lawyer, academic, columnist, and outspoken critic of the illiberal managerial state, fighting at the front lines of the culture war inside the law. Bruce writes for the National Post, Epoch Times, and the Brownstone Institute, among others, and serves as senior fellow at the Fraser Institute, the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy. He has taught at law schools in Canada, the United States and New Zealand, practiced civil litigation in Toronto, and served as adjudicator and mediator on the Ontario Environmental Tribunal. The legal ground, Bruce has written, is shifting beneath our feet. The individual is losing to the collective. An ever-expanding bureaucracy regulates life from cradle to grave, including private behavior and speech, in the name of common good. The law has become discretionary, arbitrary, and unequal. The end of Western liberal civilization, as we have known it, is conceivable.

Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British satirist, social commentator, and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry Youtube show. He is also the author of “An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West,” a Sunday Times bestseller. He has written for several publications, including Quillette, The Spectator, The Daily Telegraph, and Standpoint, on issues relating to tech censorship, woke culture, comedy, and other topics, but he currently publishes articles on his popular Substack. Kisin made headlines in 2018 when he refused to sign a "safe space contract" to perform comedy at a British college and again in 2023 when he participated in an Oxford Union debate on the motion of "This House Believes Woke Culture Has Gone Too Far." His speech at the debate received viral attention and has been seen by over 100 million people around the world.

This episode was recorded on April 14th, 2024


BILL C-63 - Everything You Need to Know | Bruce Pardy & Konstantin Kisin | EP 442 [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down in-person with Canadian lawyer Bruce Pardy and podcaster Konstantin Kisin. They discuss Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s Bill C-63 (aka The Online Harms Act), what powers it gives to the government, what rights it strips from citizens, and why even Americans should be concerned.

Bruce Pardy is executive director of Rights Probe, a law and liberty thinktank, and professor of law at Queen’s University in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. He is a lawyer, academic, columnist, and outspoken critic of the illiberal managerial state, fighting at the front lines of the culture war inside the law. Bruce writes for the National Post, Epoch Times, and the Brownstone Institute, among others, and serves as senior fellow at the Fraser Institute, the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, and the Frontier Centre for Public Policy. He has taught at law schools in Canada, the United States and New Zealand, practiced civil litigation in Toronto, and served as adjudicator and mediator on the Ontario Environmental Tribunal. The legal ground, Bruce has written, is shifting beneath our feet. The individual is losing to the collective. An ever-expanding bureaucracy regulates life from cradle to grave, including private behavior and speech, in the name of common good. The law has become discretionary, arbitrary, and unequal. The end of Western liberal civilization, as we have known it, is conceivable.

Konstantin Kisin is a Russian-British satirist, social commentator, and co-host of the TRIGGERnometry Youtube show. He is also the author of “An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West,” a Sunday Times bestseller. He has written for several publications, including Quillette, The Spectator, The Daily Telegraph, and Standpoint, on issues relating to tech censorship, woke culture, comedy, and other topics, but he currently publishes articles on his popular Substack. Kisin made headlines in 2018 when he refused to sign a "safe space contract" to perform comedy at a British college and again in 2023 when he participated in an Oxford Union debate on the motion of "This House Believes Woke Culture Has Gone Too Far." His speech at the debate received viral attention and has been seen by over 100 million people around the world.

This episode was recorded on April 14th, 2024

BILL C-63 - Everything You Need to Know | Bruce Pardy & Konstantin Kisin | EP 442

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Bruce Pardy, and Konstantin Kisin delve into a deep analysis of the current state of legal systems, particularly in Canada, and its implications for free speech.

Sessions | Bruce Pardy & Konstantin Kisin [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author and speaker Tor Nørretranders. They discuss the entropy of emotion, the nature of pointlessness, the over-civilization of societal structures, how relationships shape perception, and why play might be the antithesis to tyranny.

Tor Nørretranders is an independent author, thinker and speaker based in Denmark, serving an international audience. He has published over 30 books on topics ranging from society to human consciousness. 


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Tor Nørretranders:

The User Illusion:
https://www.amazon.com/User-Illusion-Cutting-Consciousness-Penguin/dp/0140230122

The Generous Man:
https://www.amazon.com/Generous-Man-Helping-Others-Sexiest/dp/B005SNMU4I

Wild food and agriculture:
https://madfeed.co/video/from-wild-to-tame-and-back-again/
https://madfeed.co/video/we-are-here-because-we-have-appetite/
https://madfeed.co/video/whos-got-the-guts/

Website https://www.tor.dk/

Article “We Are Waking Up” : https://www.tor.dk/2019/05/06/we-are-waking-up/


Dreams, Stories, Psychedelics & Conscious | Tor Nørretranders | EP 441

Dreams, Stories, Psychedelics & Conscious | Tor Nørretranders | EP 441 [Member Exclusive]

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Tor Nørretranders walk through his biography, the life experiences that have shaped his understanding of science, and why he focuses on the nature of consciousness.

Tor Nørretranders is an independent author, thinker and speaker based in Denmark, serving an international audience. He has published over 30 books on topics ranging from society to human consciousness. 


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Tor Nørretranders:

The User Illusion:
https://www.amazon.com/User-Illusion-Cutting-Consciousness-Penguin/dp/0140230122

The Generous Man:
https://www.amazon.com/Generous-Man-Helping-Others-Sexiest/dp/B005SNMU4I

Wild food and agriculture:
https://madfeed.co/video/from-wild-to-tame-and-back-again/
https://madfeed.co/video/we-are-here-because-we-have-appetite/
https://madfeed.co/video/whos-got-the-guts/

Website https://www.tor.dk/

Article “We Are Waking Up” : https://www.tor.dk/2019/05/06/we-are-waking-up/

Sessions | Tor Nørretranders [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with 2024 presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy to discuss the recent suspension of his campaign, how he fought the traditional media’s best advances against him, who he is endorsing now, and the American values he seeks to defend going forward.

Vivek Ramaswamy is an entrepreneur, author, and political activist. Vivek has been making headlines since announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election, running on a platform in part to dismantle the expansive and corrupt bureaucracy that has seeped into nearly all facets of American government. Prior to this, Ramaswamy was the founder and CEO of the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences. Leaving in 2021, he published “Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam.” In 2022, he co-founded Strive Asset Management with Anson Frericks, which focuses on an alternative to the now-pushed ESG investment framework. That same year Ramaswamy published “Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence" 
and has since been deemed one of the “Intellectual Godfathers of the anti-woke movement.”


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Vivek Ramaswamy:

On X https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@vivek-2024 

Looking Back on the Campaign, and Forward for the Country | Vivek Ramaswamy [Member Exclusive]

Looking Back on the Campaign, and Forward for the Country | Vivek Ramaswamy

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Vivek Ramaswamy commence a rapid-fire interview, touching on core subjects from the campaign trail that truly matter for the future of the United States.

Vivek Ramaswamy is an entrepreneur, author, and political activist. Vivek has been making headlines since announcing his candidacy for the 2024 presidential election, running on a platform in part to dismantle the expansive and corrupt bureaucracy that has seeped into nearly all facets of American government. Prior to this, Ramaswamy was the founder and CEO of the biopharmaceutical company Roivant Sciences. Leaving in 2021, he published “Woke, Inc.: Inside Corporate America's Social Justice Scam.” In 2022, he co-founded Strive Asset Management with Anson Frericks, which focuses on an alternative to the now-pushed ESG investment framework. That same year Ramaswamy published “Nation of Victims: Identity Politics, the Death of Merit, and the Path Back to Excellence” and has since been deemed one of the “Intellectual Godfathers of the anti-woke movement.”


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Vivek Ramaswamy:

On X https://twitter.com/VivekGRamaswamy?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@vivek-2024 

Sessions | Vivek Ramaswamy [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with industry consultant, science activist, and past president of Greenpeace Canada (1971 to 1986), Dr. Patrick Moore. They discuss his time in Greenpeace, the historic timeline of global ice ages and climate change, the clear lies being peddled to promote alarmism, and how the woke left manipulates science (and scientists) to promote a falsely perceived and politically incentivized future catastrophe. 

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Patrick Moore:

On X https://twitter.com/ecosensenow?lang=en 

“Fake Invisible Catastrophes And Threats of Doom” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Fake-Invisible-Catastrophes-Threats-Doom-ebook/dp/B08T6FFY6S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fake+invisible+catastrophe&qid=1612915229&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 

Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers of Radical Alarmism | Dr. Patrick Moore [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with industry consultant, science activist, and past president of Greenpeace Canada (1971 to 1986), Dr. Patrick Moore. They discuss his time in Greenpeace, the historic timeline of global ice ages and climate change, the clear lies being peddled to promote alarmism, and how the woke left manipulates science (and scientists) to promote a falsely perceived and politically incentivized future catastrophe. 

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Patrick Moore:

On X https://twitter.com/ecosensenow?lang=en 

“Fake Invisible Catastrophes And Threats of Doom” (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Fake-Invisible-Catastrophes-Threats-Doom-ebook/dp/B08T6FFY6S/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=fake+invisible+catastrophe&qid=1612915229&s=digital-text&sr=1-1 


Microplastics, Global Greening, & the Dangers of Radical Alarmism | Dr. Patrick Moore

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Patrick Moore delve further into the realm of science manipulation, drawing on numerous proven stories such as the use of plastic by wild Albatross’ for digestion, and how bad actors use spin to monger fear.

Dr. Patrick Moore has been a leader in the international environmental field for more than 45 years. He is a co-founder of Greenpeace and served for nine years as President of Greenpeace Canada and seven years as a Director of Greenpeace International. As the leader of many campaigns Dr. Moore was a driving force shaping policy and direction for 15 years while Greenpeace became the world's largest environmental activist organization.

In recent years, Dr. Moore has been focused on the promotion of sustainability and consensus building among competing concerns. He was a member of the British Columbia government-appointed Round Table on the Environment and Economy from 1990 - 1994. In 1990, Dr. Moore founded and chaired the BC Carbon Project, a group that worked to develop a common understanding of climate change.

In 2021 Dr. Moore published "Fake Invisible Catastrophes and Threats of Doom" exposing the fake news and fake science around 11 claims of disaster including climate change, coral reefs, polar bears, plastic, nuclear energy, and more.

Sessions | Dr. Patrick Moore [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with writer, philosopher, and cognitive scientist Dr. Daniel Dennett. They discuss the concepts of aboutness, intention, and the highest good as they relate to the religious and secular worlds, the establishment of trust and ethics outside of transcendent presupposition, and the loss of academic freedom at the misapprehension of postmodernism.

Dr. Daniel Dennett is an American philosopher, writer, and cognitive scientist. He has published dozens of books, such as “Consciousness Explained" (1992), “Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life” (1996), and “Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena” (2007).


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Daniel Dennett:

On X https://twitter.com/danieldennett?lang=en 

The Problem with Counterfeit People (Article on AI, the Atlantic) https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/ 

Consciousness Explained (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Explained-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/0316180661 

I’ve Been Thinking (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Ive-Been-Thinking-Daniel-Dennett/dp/0393868052 

Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338 

Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett [Member Exclusive]

Aboutness, Secular vs. Religious Ethics, & Plato’s Aviary | Dr. Daniel Dennett

In this DW+ exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Dr. Daniel Dennett discuss his early dual interests in sculpting and philosophy, how art and engineering relate, the use and misuse of interlocutors in linguistic expression, what Penrose gets wrong about algorithmic consistency, the “good idea” that makes up the bedrock of postmodernism, and the unprecedented danger of “counterfeit people” in the wake of AI.

Dr. Daniel Dennett is an American philosopher, writer, and cognitive scientist. He has published dozens of books, such as “Consciousness Explained" (1992), “Darwin's Dangerous Idea: Evolution and the Meanings of Life” (1996), and “Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena” (2007).


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dr. Daniel Dennett:

On X https://twitter.com/danieldennett?lang=en 

The Problem with Counterfeit People (Article on AI, the Atlantic) https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2023/05/problem-counterfeit-people/674075/ 

Consciousness Explained (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Consciousness-Explained-Daniel-C-Dennett/dp/0316180661 

I’ve Been Thinking (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Ive-Been-Thinking-Daniel-Dennett/dp/0393868052 

Breaking the Spell: Religion as Natural Phenomena (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Spell-Religion-Natural-Phenomenon/dp/0143038338 

Sessions | Dr. Daniel Dennett [Member Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with entrepreneur, U.S. representative, and 2024 presidential candidate Dean Phillips. They discuss his now-suspended presidential campaign, the monolithic opposition he faced getting platformed, the reality of President Joe Biden’s age, the core issues facing America right now, and the comparative pathologies of Republicans and Democrats respectively.

Dean Phillips is an American businessman and congressman, serving as the U.S. representative of Minnesota’s 3rd District since 2019. Phillips has started and run several companies over the years (Such as Talenti Gelato) and served as CEO of his family's liquor business, Phillips Distilling Co, for 12 years (2000-2012). Phillips ran as the only Democrat against Joe Biden in the 2024 election. On March 6th, 2024, he suspended his campaign.


- Links -

2024 tour details can be found here https://jordanbpeterson.com/events   

Peterson Academy https://petersonacademy.com/  


For Dean Phillips:

On instagram https://www.instagram.com/repdeanphillips/?hl=en 

On X https://twitter.com/repdeanphillips?lang=en 

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