This is a special release from the Beyond Order Tour as it visits Dublin, Ireland. Dr. Jordan B. Peterson discusses the animating spirit of play, the positive feedback loop of depression, how to pursue what is meaningful, and why abdicated responsibility plays out as fate.

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast

Meaning, Depression, & the Weight of the World

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with Alex O’Connor and Richard Dawkins to discuss their differences of view on the Abrahamic biblical texts, truth claims in science and fiction, the extension of memes through Jungian archetypes, and the memetical reality of dragons.

This episode was filmed on September 30th, 2024

Richard Dawkins is a British evolutionary biologist, zoologist, science communicator, and bestselling author of books such as “The Selfish Gene,” and “The Genetic Book of the Dead.” 

Alex O'Connor is a philosophy-oriented YouTuber, podcaster, and public speaker. He graduated in 2021 from St. John's College, Oxford University, with a BA in philosophy and theology. In 2023, he launched the “Within Reason” podcast, which has featured guests including Sam Harris, Richard Dawkins, Slavoj Žižek, Neil deGrasse Tyson, and Rory Stewart, amongst others.


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For Richard Dawkins:

On X https://x.com/RichardDawkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@poetryofreality 

The Genetic Book of the Dead (New book) https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Book-Dead-Darwinian-Reverie/dp/0300278098 


For Alex O’Connor:

On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@CosmicSkeptic 

On X https://x.com/CosmicSkeptic?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 


Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor [Ad Free]

Symbolic Patterns: Memes, Archetypes, Dragons, Genes | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O’Connor

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson, Dr. Richard Dawkins, and Alex O’Connor Discuss the underlying metaphysics of personality, the relationship between perceptual abstraction and survival, the failure of the Enlightenment ethos, and why Jordan is trying to reconnect the Judeo-Christian ethic with the scientific enterprise.

This episode was filmed on September 30th, 2024


| Links |

For Richard Dawkins:

On X https://x.com/RichardDawkins?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@poetryofreality 

The Genetic Book of the Dead (New book) https://www.amazon.com/Genetic-Book-Dead-Darwinian-Reverie/dp/0300278098 


For Alex O’Connor:

On YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@CosmicSkeptic 

On X https://x.com/CosmicSkeptic?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 


Sessions | Dr. Richard Dawkins & Alex O'Connor [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with filmmaker and activist Robby Starbuck. They discuss Robby’s choice to abandon the life of a Hollywood filmmaker, what broke his faith in the Democratic ideology, why a willingness to risk everything is necessary for substantive cultural change, exactly how Robby is taking on woke corporate America, and why it's working.

Robby Starbuck, a filmmaker and anti-communist once directed Oscar-winning actors and some of the biggest music stars in the world but seeing the threat of Marxism in America set a fire inside him due to his own Mom and grandparents fleeing communism in Cuba. He knew he had to stand up. He started his public stand by endorsing Trump in the 2015 primary. Hollywood didn’t like that very much.

This episode was filmed on September 20th, 2024


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For Robby Starbuck:

On X https://x.com/robbystarbuck?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/robbystarbuck/?hl=en 

Website https://robbystarbuck.com/ 

DEI Whistleblower page https://robbystarbuck.com/DEI/ 

Bringing Woke Capitalism to a Shuddering Halt | Robby Starbuck

Bringing Woke Capitalism to a Shuddering Halt | Robby Starbuck [Ad Free]

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Robby Starbuck Discuss Robby’s personal history, the distinction between the ideology prominent on the Right and that expressed by the Left, why the divide has grown so vast in recent years, and what foundational behaviors construct healthy relationships.

This episode was filmed on September 20th, 2024


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For Robby Starbuck:

On X https://x.com/robbystarbuck?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/robbystarbuck/?hl=en 

Website https://robbystarbuck.com/ 

DEI Whistleblower page https://robbystarbuck.com/DEI/ 

Sessions | Robby Starbuck [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with author, lecturer, and podcaster Spencer Klavan. They discuss the fruits and follies of the postmodern worldview, how our conscious and subconscious rank order data and form perceptions, where disparate creation myths and biblical depictions overlap, why God does not rule by force, and how just about everything we uncover through science reaffirms the notion of an underlying unity

Spencer A. Klavan is host of the Young Heretics podcast and associate editor of The Claremont Review of Books. A graduate of Yale, he earned his doctorate in ancient Greek literature from Oxford University. He is the author, most recently, of the acclaimed book Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith, as well as the editor of Gateway to the Stoics and Gateway to the Epicureans. He has written for many outlets, including The Atlantic, The Los Angeles Times, City Journal, Newsweek, The Federalist, The American Mind, and The Daily Wire. He lives in Nashville, Tennessee.

This episode was recorded on October 4th, 2024


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For Spencer Klavan:

“Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith”
(Newest book) https://www.amazon.com/Light-Mind-World-Science-Illuminating/dp/1684515335 

On X https://x.com/SpencerKlavan?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sklavan/?hl=en 

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@YoungHereticsShow/featured

Substack https://substack.com/@spencerklavan 

Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith | Spencer Klavan

Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith | Spencer Klavan [Ad Free]

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan Peterson and Spencer Klavan discuss his new book, “Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith.” They break down how modern science is a continuation of the monastic tradition, where the antithesis between higher-order unity and rational study emerged, and how we bring the two back into equilibrium.

Spencer A. Klavan is host of the Young Heretics podcast and associate editor of The Claremont Review of Books. A graduate of Yale, he earned his doctorate in ancient Greek literature from Oxford University. He is the author, most recently, of the acclaimed book Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith, as well as the editor of Gateway to the Stoics and Gateway to the Epicureans. He has written for many outlets, including The Atlantic, The Los Angeles Times, City Journal, Newsweek, The Federalist, The American Mind, and The Daily Wire. He lives in Nashville, Tennessee.

This episode was recorded on October 4th, 2024


- Links -

For Spencer Klavan:

“Light of the Mind, Light of the World: Illuminating Science Through Faith”
(Newest book) https://www.amazon.com/Light-Mind-World-Science-Illuminating/dp/1684515335 

On X https://x.com/SpencerKlavan?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

On Instagram https://www.instagram.com/sklavan/?hl=en 

On Youtube https://www.youtube.com/@YoungHereticsShow/featured

Substack https://substack.com/@spencerklavan 

Sessions | Spencer Klavan [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with international bestselling author of the “Orphan X” series, Gregg Hurwitz. They discuss the manufactured polarity within the United States, how bad actors and foreign powers are manipulating American thought, the shocking number of data points most people agree on, and Gregg’s newest work, a short film called “Ask An Iranian: The Truth About the Middle East” which showcases true accounts of the terror administered by the Islamic Republic of Iran.

Gregg Hurwitz is the New York Times #1 internationally bestselling author of 24 thrillers including the Orphan X series. His novels have won numerous literary awards and have been published in 33 languages. Gregg currently serves as the Co-President of International Thriller Writers (ITW). Additionally, he’s written screenplays and television scripts for many of the major studios and networks, comics for AWA (including the critically acclaimed anthology NewThink), DC, and Marvel, and poetry. Currently, Gregg is actively working against polarization in politics and culture. To that end, he's penned op-eds for The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, The Bulwark and others, and has produced several hundred commercials and creative content which have gotten several hundred million views on digital TV platforms. He also helped write the opening ceremony of the 2022 World Cup.

This episode was recorded on September 25th, 2024


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For Gregg Hurwitz

“Ask An Iranian” Film https://x.com/us_the_story 

On X https://x.com/GreggHurwitz 

Foreign PSYOPs in the USA | Gregg Hurwitz [Ad Free]

US the Story: Dismantling Partisan Propaganda | Gregg Hurwitz

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Gregg Hurwitz continue their 32 year long conversation on the state of our culture, the bridges between conservatism and liberalism that most people agree on, and the three rules that masters of messaging don’t break. They also discuss the modern rise of antisemitism at the hands of the victim/victimizer narrative, the collusion of corporations and big government, and the true extent of foreign influence on our culture wars.

Gregg Hurwitz is the New York Times #1 internationally bestselling author of 24 thrillers including the Orphan X series. His novels have won numerous literary awards and have been published in 33 languages. Gregg currently serves as the Co-President of International Thriller Writers (ITW). Additionally, he’s written screenplays and television scripts for many of the major studios and networks, comics for AWA (including the critically acclaimed anthology NewThink), DC, and Marvel, and poetry. Currently, Gregg is actively working against polarization in politics and culture. To that end, he's penned op-eds for The Wall Street Journal, The Guardian, The Bulwark and others, and has produced several hundred commercials and creative content which have gotten several hundred million views on digital TV platforms. He also helped write the opening ceremony of the 2022 World Cup.


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For Gregg Hurwitz

“Ask An Iranian” Film https://x.com/us_the_story 

On X https://x.com/GreggHurwitz 

Sessions | Gregg Hurwitz [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with the 13th Prime Minister of Israel, Naftali Bennett. They discuss the internal divisions of Israel, how October 7th refocused the nation, the means by which the Islamic Republic of Iran operates its industry of terror, the victim/victimizer narrative, and what victory might actually look like.

Naftali Bennett is an Israeli politician who entered politics in 2006 as the Chief of Staff for Benjamin Netanyahu. From 2018 to 2022 he served as the leader of the New Right party. Then from June 2021 to June 2022, he served as the 13th prime minister of Israel. He retired after one term, becoming the 3rd alternate Prime Minister. He then resigned from this position and re-entered the private sphere as a board member of the Israeli tech company Quantum Source.


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For Naftali Bennett:

On X https://x.com/naftalibennett?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

The Islamic Republic of Terror: Hezbollah & Hamas | Naftali Bennett [Ad Free]

The Islamic Republic of Terror: Hezbollah & Hamas | Naftali Bennett

In this exclusive Sessions interview, Dr. Jordan B. Peterson and Naftali Bennett go deeper into the victim/victimizer narrative and why it leads to increases in antisemitism. They also discuss Naftali’s outreach work with Jewish students abroad, the advent of antisemitism specifically on college campuses, and how Israel managed an economic boom over the past 20 years despite all odds.

Naftali Bennett is an Israeli politician who entered politics in 2006 as the Chief of Staff for Benjamin Netanyahu. From 2018 to 2022 he served as the leader of the New Right party. Then from June 2021 to June 2022, he served as the 13th prime minister of Israel. He retired after one term, becoming the 3rd alternate Prime Minister. He then resigned from this position and re-entered the private sphere as a board member of the Israeli tech company Quantum Source.


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For Naftali Bennett:

On X https://x.com/naftalibennett?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor 

Sessions | Naftali Bennett [DW+ Exclusive]

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson sits down with physicist and author, Dr. Brian Greene. They discuss the strange conceptualization of “before” the Big Bang, how time might be a microscopic phenomenon, how order existed at the point of the universe's creation, what would happen if you fell into a black hole, and the process of going from understanding to harnessing new insights.

Dr. Brian Greene is an American physicist known for his research on string theory. He is a professor of physics and mathematics at Columbia University and the chairman of the World Science Festival, which he co-founded in 2008. Dr. Greene has worked on mirror symmetry, relating two different Calabi–Yau manifolds (concretely relating the conifold to one of its orbifolds). He also described the flop transition, a mild form of topology change, showing that topology in string theory can change at the conifold point.

This episode was recorded on September 9th, 2024


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For Brian Greene:

On X https://x.com/bgreene?lang=en 

Website https://www.briangreene.org/ 

"Until the End of Time: Mind, Matter, and Our Search for Meaning in an Evolving Universe" (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Until-End-Time-Evolving-Universe/dp/1524731676 

"The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory" (Book) https://www.amazon.com/Elegant-Universe-Superstrings-Dimensions-Ultimate/dp/039333810X 

The Intersection of Science and Meaning | Dr. Brian Greene [Ad Free]

In this DW+ exclusive Q&A filmed on the We Who Wrestle With God Tour, Jordan Peterson takes impromptu questions from his Nashville audience as moderated by Konstantin Kisin. Topics include Richard Dawkins and cultural Christianity, why the Enlightenment fails as a moral ethos, the birth of the hero, and the impossibility of religious practice (and the benefits thereof) without belief.


Sessions | Q&A Nashville [DW+ Exclusive]

This is a special release from the We Who Wrestle With God Tour in Nashville, Tennessee. Dr. Jordan B. Peterson discusses how worldview operates as a useful story, why might doesn't make right, how chaos manifests as infinite possibility without aim, the biblical role of women, and the original sins of Adam.



The Sins of Adam and the True Nature of Eve [Ad Free]

Join intellectual phenomenon Dr Jordan Peterson for enlightening discourse that will change the way you think. This podcast breaks down the dichotomy of life through interviews and lectures that explain how individuals and culture are shaped by values, music, religion, and beyond. It will give you a new perspective and a modern understanding of your creativity, competence, and personality.

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