In this episode of the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, we continue our dive into Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. This compilation episode is focused on Rule 3: “Do Not Hide Unwanted Things in the Fog" It includes interviews with Dave Rubin, Aubrey Marcus, and Theo Von.

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Beyond Order: Rule 3 - Do Not Hide Unwanted Things in the Fog

As the Ambassador to Israel under President Donald Trump, David Friedman accomplished many things including the historical passing of the Abraham Accords. Ambassador Friedman joins to discuss his time under President Trump and how the accords came to fruition.

David Melech Friedman (born August 8, 1958) is an American bankruptcy lawyer and the former United States Ambassador to Israel. He joined the law firm Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman (then known as Kasowitz, Hoff, Benson & Torres) in 1994, where he met and represented Donald Trump, then chairman and president of The Trump Organization.

He was an advisor to Trump during his successful presidential campaign. In December 2016, President-elect Trump's transition team announced that Friedman was Trump's nominee for ambassador. He was narrowly confirmed by the Senate, officially sworn in by Vice President Mike Pence on March 29 and presented his credentials on May 15 to Israeli President Reuven Rivlin.

Middle East: Peace Beckons | David Friedman

The two hemispheres of the human brain are explicitly different and both incredibly complex. Dr. Iain McGilchrist joins to discuss and explore the science of philosophy, covering everything from our ability to reason to how art can cross cultures.

Dr Iain McGilchrist is a psychiatrist, neuroscience researcher, philosopher and literary scholar. He is a Quondam Fellow of All Souls College, Oxford, an Associate Fellow of Green Templeton College, Oxford, a Fellow of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, and former Consultant Psychiatrist and Clinical Director at the Bethlem Royal & Maudsley Hospital, London. He has been a Research Fellow in neuroimaging at Johns Hopkins Hospital, Baltimore and a Fellow of the Institute of Advanced Studies in Stellenbosch. He has published original articles and research papers in a wide range of publications on topics in literature, philosophy, medicine and psychiatry. He is the author of a number of books, but is best-known for The Master and his Emissary: The Divided Brain and the Making of the Western World (Yale 2009), In November 2021 his two-volume work The Matter with Things: Our Brains, Our Delusions and the Unmaking of the World was published by Perspectiva Press.


The Matter with Things: Peterson and McGilchrist

This was the first time that Jonathan Pagaeu, John Vervaeke, and Jordan Peterson all sat down together in person. Recorded in Dr. Peterson’s home, and prominently featuring many of Kwakwakaʼwakw carver Charles Joseph’s incredible statues and carvings, this recording may require a few complete watchthroughs. The conversation was created to intentionally dive deep into the areas of systems of perception and their impacts on our abilities to prioritize, the nature of YHWH (Judeo-Christian God), and the exploration of the True, the Good, and the Beautiful. This conversation is only the beginning of many more conversations to have between these three and on these topics. Please comment any insights that you have derived from this video, my team will be paying close attention to the progress on these ideas.

Jonathan Pageau is a symbolic thinker, YouTuber, and class carver of orthodox icons. Jordan and Jonathan have an ongoing dialogue surrounding Judeo-Christian narrative, reality, and symbolism among many other topics.

John Vervaeke is an Assistant Professor in Cognitive Psychology and Cognitive Science at the University of Toronto. His work constructs a bridge between science and spirituality in order to understand the experience of meaningfulness and the cultivation of wisdom so as to afford awakening from the meaning crisis.

Deeper Yet Into The Weeds: Pageau, Vervaeke, Peterson

Larry P. Arnn is the twelfth president of Hillsdale College. He joins Dr Jordan B Peterson to discuss the founding and history of Hillsdale, the importance of fatherhood, and the fundamentals of education.

He received his B.A. from Arkansas State University and his M.A. and Ph.D. in Government from the Claremont Graduate School.  He served as director of research for Sir Martin Gilbert, the official biographer of Winston Churchill.  He served as president of the Claremont Institute for the Study of Statesmanship and Political Philosophy from 1985 to 2000.  In 1996, he was the founding chairman of the California Civil Rights Initiative, which was passed by California voters and prohibited racial preferences in state hiring, contracting, and admissions.

He is the author of three books: Liberty and Learning: The Evolution of American Education; The Founders’ Key: The Divine and Natural Connection between the Declaration and the Constitution and What We Risk by Losing It; and Churchill’s Trial: Winston Churchill and the Salvation of Free Government.

Dr. Arnn is a professor of politics and history at Hillsdale.  He teaches courses on Aristotle, Winston Churchill, 20th Century Totalitarian Novels, and the American Constitution.

The Best of Conservative Education | Larry P Arnn & Dr Jordan B Peterson

We are heading into one of the most epic famines in world history, where the poor will freeze in the dark and burn in the sun while they starve.

Michael Yon, one of America’s youngest Green Berets at 19 years old, joins Dr Jordan B Peterson to discuss the current state of affairs across the globe.  Michael has traveled and lived over half of his life abroad in more than 80 countries .  Author of three books in the United States and three others in Japan, he is America’s most experienced combat correspondent.

Cometh the Horsemen: Pandemic, Famine, War | Michael Yon & Dr Jordan B Peterson

Canadian Politician Roman Baber joins Dr Peterson to discuss the state of the Conservative Party in Canada and their approach to climate change, and the devastating hit Canada's reputation has taken at the international level.

Conservative Resistance in Canada | Roman Baber & Dr Jordan B Peterson

James B. Keller is a microprocessor engineer best known for his work at AMD and Apple. He was the lead architect of the AMD K8 microarchitecture and was involved in designing the Athlon and Apple A4/A5 processors.

Jim joins Dr Jordan B Peterson to give us a look behind the scenes at Apple, Tesla, and AMD, and explain the inner workings of your everyday computer.

Zeroes and Ones: Into The Depths of Computation | Jim Keller & Dr Jordan B Peterson

Magatte Wade is a serial entrepreneur, inspirational speaker, and visionary business leader with a passion for creating positive change in Africa. She is the founder and CEO of SkinIsSkin.com, “the lip balm with a mission,” and is dedicated to reducing racial discrimination while creating jobs and prosperity in her home country of Senegal.

Magatte joins Dr Peterson to discuss her emigration from the third world, and how this influenced her unmitigated belief in capitalism and the free market.


How Black Lives Truly Matter | Magatte Wade and Dr Jordan B Peterson

Robert Trivers is an American evolutionary biologist and sociobiologist. He proposed the theory of Reciprocal Altruism, in a paper that he published in 1971, linked below. Trivers was awarded the 2007 Crafoord Prize in Biosciences for analysis and contributions to the theory of social evolution, conflict, and cooperation. 

In this episode, Robert Trivers and I talk about reciprocal altruism, deception and self-deception as adaptive strategies, genuine victims and reducing vulnerability, and much more. 

Biology and Man | Robert Trivers and Dr Jordan B Peterson

Frans de Waal is an acclaimed Dutch primatologist and ethologist. He's written and published numerous books, including 'Chimpanzee Cultures,' 'Are We Smart Enough to Know How Smart Animals Are?', 'Mam's Last Hug,' and his most recent book, 'Different: Gender Through the Eyes of a Primatologist.'

In this episode, Frans de Waal and I discuss a number of things, including the instinct for reciprocal cooperation, the characteristics of sex and gender, the necessity of play, reconciliation, how we mismeasure animals, and much more.

The Biology of Good and Evil | Frans de Waal & Dr Jordan B Peterson

Rod Dreher is a senior writer and editor for 'The American Conservative.' He is the author of three New York Times bestsellers: 'Live Not By Lies,' 'The Benedict Option,' and 'The Little Way of Ruthie Leming,' as well as the books 'Crunchy Cons' and 'How Dante Can Save Your Life.'

In this episode, Rod Dreher and I discuss his latest book, 'Live Not By Lies,' the continuous emergence of Communism in the West, ideology as a substitute for religion, the importance of courage, and more. 

Live Not By Lies | Rod Dreher & Dr Jordan B Peterson

Rex Murphy is a Canadian commentator and author, primarily on Canadian political and social matters. He was the regular host of CBC Radio One's Cross Country Checkup, a nation wide call-in show, for 21 years, before stepping down in September of 2015. He currently writes for The National Post, where his articles are published weekly.

In this episode, Rex Murphy and I discuss the strange times in current Canadian politics, the perpetual scandals of Justin Trudeau, media censorship and the appalling Bill C-11, fascism on the Left, Zoom parliament, and much more. 

Trudeau vs. Canada

In this episode, Dave Rubin and I discuss the evolution of his lifestyle, the recent Leftist push with transgender ideology and the uncharted territory of gay fatherhood.

Dave Rubin is the creator and host of The Rubin Report. He is the author of Don’t Burn This Book and Don't Burn This Country, and the co-founder of the community building platform Locals.

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Gay Parenting: Promise and Pitfalls

Dr. Adrian Wooldridge is a political editor at The Economist and author of the new book ‘The Aristocracy of Talent: How Meritocracy Made the Modern World.’ In this episode, Dr. Wooldridge and I discuss how his new book has been received, the history of meritocracy, how IQ testing shaped educational policy, group-based judgement, and the importance of defending liberal individualism.

Meritocracy or Else | Dr. Adrian Wooldridge & Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

In this episode of the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast, we continue our dive into Beyond Order: 12 More Rules for Life. This compilation episode is focused on Rule 2: "Imagine who you could be, and then aim single-mindedly at that." It includes interviews with Dave Rubin, Tom Bilyeu, Chris Williamson, and more.

Beyond Order: Rule 2 - Imagine Who You Could Be, and Then Aim Single-Mindedly at That.

This past Sunday was Father’s Day. In this episode, I discuss my family history, relationships, growing up, learning to read and write, raising children, and marriage with my father Walter Peterson.

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