Appearing on CNN with Brianna Keilar, Dr. Ben Carson, vying for the title of Worst Campaign Surrogate Ever ™, told Keilar that she had a “problem” with the lewd and coarse language of Donald Trump because she had never heard language like that before.
The exchange went like this:
Keilar: He said these things, and that’s why we’re talking about them. And I want to talk to you about a way that you characterized them. You said, you described them as “locker room talk.” And you said that Donald Trump was someone else eleven years ago, he wasn’t in the political sphere eleven years ago. Are you a terribly different person than you were eleven years ago?
Carson: We all tend to change, but remember, eleven years ago, he’s a billionaire playboy. You know, now he’s running for president of the United States, that means you’re out there among the people you’re listening to their concerns, there’s a certain gravitas that is attributed to you because you begin to understand these things that you weren’t even concerned about before. It makes a difference.
Keilar: But he’s talked, even as a presidential candidate about physical appearance –
Carson: Let me just say this: it doesn’t excuse the words; it doesn’t excuse what was done. I think it’s abominable. I don’t think there’s any way that you can justify it and I don’t hear anybody trying to justify it. But let’s move on.
Keilar: Why did you call it “locker room talk”?
Carson: Call it whatever you need to call it to make it feel good to But the fact of the matter is, I’ve been in lots of places growing up, listening to people talk about their great tales of sexual conquest. You know, it’s an immature thing to do. Immature people do it.
Keilar: Dr. Carson, you said, “Say whatever you need to call it to make it feel good to me or may to the viewer, but that’s not really the viewer’s job, right, to try to come up with some way to characterize this to make this feel good for them. you I mean, this is what it is. Why did you call it locker room talk?
Carson: Don’t mischaracterize what I’m saying. What I am saying is that kind of banter goes around all the time. Is it the right kind of thing to do? Absolutely not. Is it something I’ve ever done? Absolutely not.
Keilar: So you’ve heard people talking like this?
Carson: I’ve heard people talking like that. Of course. Are you kidding me? You know, people are always trying –
Keilar: Where are you hanging out? Whom are you hanging out that you hear people talking like that?
Carson: As I was growing up, people were always talking about their sexual conquests, and trying to make themselves appear, you know, like Casanova. I’m surprised you haven’t heard that. I really am.
Keilar: I haven’t heard it and I know a lot of people who have not heard it, and they were shocked.
Carson: Well, then, maybe that’s the problem. Maybe that’s the problem.
Keilar, stunned, “The problem is that I haven’t –“
Carson: People have not heard this. Maybe that’s the problem.
Carson has a history of ridiculous statements on behalf of Trump, but this incident may have topped them all.