Klavan: Should Trump Compromise With Democrats On The Wall?

President Donald Trump speaks to the media from the Roosevelt Room at The White House on November 1, 2018 in Washington, D.C.
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Should President Trump come to a compromise with the Democrats in Congress to get the border wall built? Andrew Klavan explained on "The Andrew Klavan Show" Tuesday why the president is the only conservative in recent memory who could actually secure a good outcome and discusses what such a compromise might ultimately look like.

"Democrats who are talking absolute garbage about abolishing ICE, about establishing sanctuary cities where people can hide out if they've broken the law, this is how people are getting killed," he said. "Because in California they couldn't report an illegal gangster and then he shot a cop, you know, this is what the Left is talking about. But in real life, if these people are adults and responsible, there's a deal to be made. They can get amnesty for the dreamers, the people who came in here before they were old enough to make a decision. They were brought in by their parents. Do that, and give Trump a wall in exchange."

Klavan continued: "Trump needs the wall because he promised the wall, because the base asked for the wall. Will the wall work? Walls seem to work pretty well, they work at my house, people don't walk into my house because there are walls on it. I mean walls do seem to work, they work in Europe, they work in Israel... give 'em the wall. It's not going to kill you to give 'em the wall and let the dreamers stay."

"I know that there are absolutists on the Right who say, ‘No, no, no, we can't give amnesty to anybody’ — this is politics, you compromise, that's how you do politics," he explained. "Instead, all we hear about is that Trump talks in hyperbole, that sometimes the things he says aren't true, and this is from the Right! And what a bad character he is, that he did this and he did that, and Mueller says this and Mueller... Who cares? If he gets impeached, and the Senate convicts him and throws him out, I'll wave goodbye, and that'll be too damn bad because it'll be a long time before we get a guy who's as effective as he is. Is his character good? It's good enough to be courageous enough and fight for what he wants, it's good enough to get conservative policies."

Video and transcript below:

Let's look first at the reality, what's happening at the border. Illegal immigration has been falling at the border since about 2000, it peaked around 2000 when about one and a half million illegals came in. Last year it's been about a half a million, but the reason that it is now a crisis is because as countries in Central America are falling apart - as their governments are collapsing because people like Alexandria "Occasional-Cortex" are running them - people are desperate to get out, and families are coming over. So it's usually been men who come across the border, and they do work, or they're criminals, or they're gangsters or whatever they are.
But now there are these families, and we don't have the capacity to deal with them. It's not Trump's fault. Trump didn't make these countries collapse, and he didn't set up the rules as they are, and he's only using the tools that he's got to deal with this massive influx, and that's why you're getting the images of the sad children being separated from their parents. Because the law says that you've got to hold people who are seeking asylum, but you can only keep the kids in the holding cells for a certain amount of time. But then you've got to release them, and that's how you've got the separations happening, not Trump's fault, he's doing what he can to deal with it. But in order to solve this problem and the problem that has been going on for decades at the border, Trump promised a wall, so he needs a wall.
Democrats who are talking absolute garbage about abolishing ICE, about establishing sanctuary cities where people can hide out if they've broken the law, this is how people are getting killed. Because in California they couldn't report an illegal gangster and then he shot a cop, you know, this is what the Left is talking about. But in real life, if these people are adults and responsible, there's a deal to be made. They can get amnesty for the dreamers, the people who came in here before they were old enough to make a decision. They were brought in by their parents. Do that, and give Trump a wall in exchange.
Then, in-between those two things, which are kind of minor points, I know that those are the emotional high points but they're minor points, in-between those things you re-jigger the system, you make it so you just can't come in and declare asylum and get a hearing, that's ridiculous, you make it so you have to come into certain points, you have e-verify, you make it harder for illegals to get jobs, you basically tighten the security and make the system logical, that's how politics works.
Trump needs the wall because he promised the wall because the base asked for the wall. Will the wall work? Walls seem to work pretty well, they work at my house, people don't walk into my house because there are walls on it. I mean walls do seem to work, they work in Europe, they work in Israel - give 'em the wall. It's not going to kill you to give 'em the wall and let the dreamers stay.
I know that there are absolutists on the Right who say, "No, no, no, we can't give amnesty to anybody" — this is politics, you compromise, that's how you do politics. Instead, all we hear about is that Trump talks in hyperbole, that sometimes the things he says aren't true, and this is from the Right! And what a bad character he is, that he did this and he did that and Mueller says this and Mueller...who cares? If he gets impeached, and the Senate convicts him and throws him out, I'll wave goodbye, and that'll be too damn bad because it'll be a long time before we get a guy who's as effective as he is. Is his character good? It's good enough to be courageous enough and fight for what he wants, it's good enough to get conservative policies. George W. Bush had a better character, did he do as much? No way! No way, he extended entitlements, he had wars around the world, that's not a Conservative doctrine.
If we're going to have this "Seinfeld Conservatism", and all it cares about is looking good and basically standing up for these ideals that cannot be put into practice, we're going to be about
nothing, and we're going to accomplish absolutely nothing, and I'm going to be in a bad mood and I don't like that. So it's got to stop, right now!

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