On Tuesday morning, while appearing on CNN's New Day and speaking to anchor Alisyn Camerota, Dr. Sebastian Gorka, deputy assistant to President Donald Trump, laid into CNN for their biased coverage while correctly pointing out, "more people watch Nick at Nite cartoons than CNN."
It was quite an exchange.
After starting the interview with a brief discussion about the important defeat of ISIS in Mosul, Camerota predictably pivoted to all things Russia. The anchor asked Gorka about Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer to potentially collect opposition research on then-opponent Hillary Clinton during the 2016 presidential campaign.
The deputy assistant returned fire by asking why CNN has yet to cover the Democratic National Committee's meet-up with operatives at the Ukrainian Embassy with the same breathless zeal they've covered what Gorka essentially described as a nine-month witch-hunt into alleged Russia/Trump collusion.
"Was it a good idea for the DNC to send its operatives to the Ukrainian Embassy?" asked Gorka.
Camerota accused Gorka of deflecting and followed up by questioning the Trump aide as to why the First Son didn't "adequately disclose" his meetings until they were leaked to the press.
After suggesting that Trump Jr. did nothing illegal, Gorka decided to mock CNN … on live CNN air.
“The amount of time you spend in desperation on a topic that has plummeted you to 13th place in viewership ranking across America, more people watch Nick at Nite cartoons than CNN today,” he said.
Camerota offered a denial: “Our ratings are doing just fine,” she said. “If you want to go there, our ratings are doing just fine.”
“Nick at Nite is [in 11th place],” taunted Gorka. “More people are interested in cartoons!”
CNN is currently ranked 13th out of all the cable networks; Fox News and MSNBC rank 1st and 2nd, respectively. And yes, Nick at Nite, ranking number 11, does have a stronger viewership than CNN.
As noted by Daily Wire’s James Barrett, “The comparisons between CNN's viewership and that of Fox News and MSNBC are truly eye-opening. Fox News tripled CNN's viewership in nearly all of the primetime slots. Fellow left-wing network MSNBC dominated CNN in all primetime hours as well, doubling its viewership by average for most of the evening.”
Gorka continued to slam CNN, informing Camerota that the network no longer puts out journalism, but, rather, "fake news."
“What about individuals who got half a million dollars to give speeches when their wife was running for president,” he said, making a connection to CNN's insufficient coverage of the scandal.
"Is it possible that your team is obsessed with the Clintons?" asked the CNN anchor in response.
"No. We’d like you to actually do your job. You aren’t in the news business anymore," shot back Gorka. "You used to be. You are in the attacking President Trump business. And it’s sad. It’s really sad."
Camerota replied, "Look, I know you have to go, and I didn’t even want to go down this rabbit hole with you. When you take shots at us and at journalism, at CNN —”
"Not journalism," interrupted Gorka, "CNN."
That's gonna leave a mark.
"OK. When you take shots at CNN, I do feel that I must respond and just point out that you called us yesterday to come on here," she weakly offered.
"That’s what we do," Gorka said bluntly.